PaulC Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Our part time spinners took one half of the total wickets in the match for England. Yes Broad bowled ok the other three seamers were average. Wood can't play back to back test matches. His pace gets slower and slower. He is nothing unless he bowls flat out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 yeah I saw Wood has only played 27 matches in 5 years for Durham so dont think he was capable as for Finn, has he slept with somebody at ECB daughter? He has obviously pissed off somebody higher up the ladder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Pathetic today, summed up by the Stokes run out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) yeah I saw Wood has only played 27 matches in 5 years for Durham so dont think he was capable as for Finn, has he slept with somebody at ECB daughter? He has obviously pissed off somebody higher up the ladder Finn has lost a bit of pace to what he used to have. We haven't got a Starc or Johnson. You might be right about Anderson, he's showing signs of decline. Certainly if you compare this attack to the 2005 attack it doesn't have that variation or venom. Bowling stats for the series http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/bowling/most_wickets_career.html?id=9249;type=series Edited July 19, 2015 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 yeah I saw Wood has only played 27 matches in 5 years for Durham so dont think he was capable as for Finn, has he slept with somebody at ECB daughter? He has obviously pissed off somebody higher up the ladder Finn has lost a bit of pace to what he used to have. We haven't got a Starc or Johnson. You might be right about Anderson, he's showing signs of decline. Certainly if you compare this attack to the 2005 attack it doesn't have that variation or venom. Bowling stats for the series http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/bowling/most_wickets_career.html?id=9249;type=series Joe Root has got more wickets than Jimmy? Jesus christ. Broad has come back well this series to be fair to him, Moeen has done ok. Wood as has been said cannot play to back to back test matches and unfortunatly I think we are now seeing Jimmy Anderson on a decline, whilst Stokes is on merit for his batting at the moment his bowling has been piss poor. We really do have a lack of options though when it comes to fast bowling options. Jordan isn't good enough, Woakes is only just coming back from injury, Finn has lost the extra bounce and pace he had in his early years and the likes of Plunkett and Rankin have missed their opportunity you feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) From appalling to very average in just over half an hour? At that rate, by this time tomorrow, he'll be as good as Bradman. I think he only gice england runs when there's no real pressure. So i do think he's been appalling overall, yes. He has made good scores, but when it matters, much like the rest of them, he chokes good and proper. Edited July 19, 2015 by lapal_fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 From appalling to very average in just over half an hour? At that rate, by this time tomorrow, he'll be as good as Bradman. I think he only gice england runs when there's no real pressure. So i do think he's been appalling overall, yes. He has made good scores, but when it matters, much like the rest of them, he chokes good and proper. yes and against mediocre attacks. You need players at the top of the order who can play pace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 yeah I saw Wood has only played 27 matches in 5 years for Durham so dont think he was capable as for Finn, has he slept with somebody at ECB daughter? He has obviously pissed off somebody higher up the ladder Finn has lost a bit of pace to what he used to have. We haven't got a Starc or Johnson. You might be right about Anderson, he's showing signs of decline. Certainly if you compare this attack to the 2005 attack it doesn't have that variation or venom. Bowling stats for the series http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/bowling/most_wickets_career.html?id=9249;type=series Joe Root has got more wickets than Jimmy? Jesus christ. Broad has come back well this series to be fair to him, Moeen has done ok. Wood as has been said cannot play to back to back test matches and unfortunatly I think we are now seeing Jimmy Anderson on a decline, whilst Stokes is on merit for his batting at the moment his bowling has been piss poor. We really do have a lack of options though when it comes to fast bowling options. Jordan isn't good enough, Woakes is only just coming back from injury, Finn has lost the extra bounce and pace he had in his early years and the likes of Plunkett and Rankin have missed their opportunity you feel. Yes and they make out spin the problem when it really isn't. Ok we don't have a Swann any more but its as much the seamers that is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Balance should be dropped (at a minimum) if England want to have a chance. Also whoever is telling the groundsmen how to prepare the pitches should be hung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Balance should be dropped (at a minimum) if England want to have a chance. Also whoever is telling the groundsmen how to prepare the pitches should be hung. Strauss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Hannon-Dolby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Balance should be dropped (at a minimum) if England want to have a chance. Also whoever is telling the groundsmen how to prepare the pitches should be hung. Strauss? Yeah I was gonna say, I thought it was Strauss. Maybe needs a rethink. We need wickets that are going to offer some movement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Stevo, I see you lurking! I thought you hated cricket?! What you doing reading this thread?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Stevo, I see you lurking! I thought you hated cricket?! What you doing reading this thread?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Taylor needs a call up after that knock surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Does anyone think we should give Adil Rashid a go? He will bowl some bad balls and could be expensive but I could see him talking more wickets that Moeen. More spin, drift and has that ball that goes the other way bringing in LBWs. Got to take 20 wickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Bring Rashid in for Lyrh (move Moeen up the batting order). Then Taylor for bell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Taylor needs a call up after that knock surely. One knock against medium quick bowlers doesn't prove a lot to be fair. Thats his first hundred of the season as well. Bairstow who averages 100 in first class cricket this season is more deserving really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Taylor needs a call up after that knock surely. One knock against medium quick bowlers doesn't prove a lot to be fair. Thats his first hundred of the season as well. Bairstow who averages 100 in first class cricket this season is more deserving really. Defo. People need to be careful about who gets chosen because it really depends on who they've been facing. It can also make people such as Gary Ballance look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Does anyone think we should give Adil Rashid a go? He will bowl some bad balls and could be expensive but I could see him talking more wickets that Moeen. More spin, drift and has that ball that goes the other way bringing in LBWs. Got to take 20 wickets. Who knows, but the fact he would have been selected for Lords because Moeen had a side strain, then said he couldn't play because of a minor finger abrasion, yet is playing for Yorskshire now did not impress the england selectors. Moeen then has to play despite not being fit shows his character. They will stick with Moeen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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