Awol Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 An opportunity for genuine change. Surely it can only be a good thing?Jumping on a land mine produces genuine change too, that doesn't make it a good thing. I think that's pretty analogous with what Labour has done to itself today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Seems like Corbyn is the only person who has anything like the reasonable idea about anything.Kind of like the Green Party but actually electable.Problem is, the scared right Etonian club with their media friends are going to be aiming every weapon at him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Yep all this unelectable nonsense is based on what the media allow to be electable. Most of his policies are actually desired by the electorate but he will be slandered to hell for the next 5 years. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Yep all this unelectable nonsense is based on what the media allow to be electable.Most of his policies are actually desired by the electorate but he will be slandered to hell for the next 5 years.Most of his policies are desired by the electorate? What orifice did you pull that little factoid from?!It's got bugger all to do with what the media will allow to be electable and nothing to do with "Etonians" (does anybody think that most Tory voters went to Eton??), it's got everything to do with Corbyn's policies. Leave NATO, nationalise the banking sector, the magic money tree, etc. All big ticket stuff and all errant nonsense. He'll get slaughtered for what he believes, not because the media then report on it.Just because a few 100K students and old school lefties think these are good ideas doesn't mean the electorate will agree. Labour learned nothing from the last election defeat, more fool them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wainy316 Posted September 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2015 Well as far as I'm aware there is overwhelming support for renationalising the railways amongst other public services, and a reintroduction of a higher tax rate on the super rich. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Corbyn / Watson dream team 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 An opportunity for genuine change. Surely it can only be a good thing?Jumping on a land mine produces genuine change too, that doesn't make it a good thing. I think that's pretty analogous with what Labour has done to itself today. ironic that there was a vote against assisted suicide the other day and labour have committed suicide with no assistance today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Yep all this unelectable nonsense is based on what the media allow to be electable. Most of his policies are actually desired by the electorate but he will be slandered to hell for the next 5 years.He probably is unelectable, his age is as big a factor as his policies. I still voted for him. He's there to bring the discussion back to the left, to publicise a point of view which David Cameron and Rupert Murdoch have done a pretty good job of burying in recent years. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Is he unelectable? Probably yes. Were any of the other three particularly electable? No. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) The best news is some of the people who have ruled themselves out of being in the shadow cabinet (Mrs Bollocks, Kendall, Reeves, Hunt amongst them) which should mean less of them on our tv screens. Edited September 12, 2015 by snowychap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 An opportunity for genuine change. Surely it can only be a good thing?Jumping on a land mine produces genuine change too, that doesn't make it a good thing. I think that's pretty analogous with what Labour has done to itself today. ironic that there was a vote against assisted suicide the other day and labour have committed suicide with no assistance today.It's notable how quickly the majority of senior Labour MP's have ruled themselves out of serving in his Shadow Cabinet. He's going to be left trying to fill a seat or two with the absolute dross of Labour, people like Diane Abbott. It will be really interesting to see what happens to the Parliamentary party now because the disconnect between most of them and the views of the Party members seem irreconcilable on the face of it. I do hope Corbyn follows up with his threat to take the idiocy out of PMQ's and turn it into a proper session of holding the government to account. Cameron won't come off well if he stands sneering and trying to be funny, they need to take him and his arguments seriously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 It certainly should liven things up a bit. I'm willing to wait and see what he offers before saying whether it's a disaster or not. None of the others had a prayer of winning the next election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Unite have got their man ... Hope it works out better for them than the last time around I suppose the burning question now is who is the next PM .... Boris , Osborne or May ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisp65 Posted September 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2015 Good to see Kendall ruling herself out of any sort of shadow cabinet role.4% of the vote should tell her everything she needs to know about her vision for light blue labour. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I suppose the burning question now is who is the next PM .... Boris , Osborne or May ?When Cameron stands down before the next election, you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Yep all this unelectable nonsense is based on what the media allow to be electable.Most of his policies are actually desired by the electorate but he will be slandered to hell for the next 5 years.Most of his policies are desired by the electorate? What orifice did you pull that little factoid from?!It's got bugger all to do with what the media will allow to be electable and nothing to do with "Etonians" (does anybody think that most Tory voters went to Eton??), it's got everything to do with Corbyn's policies. Leave NATO, nationalise the banking sector, the magic money tree, etc. All big ticket stuff and all errant nonsense. He'll get slaughtered for what he believes, not because the media then report on it.Just because a few 100K students and old school lefties think these are good ideas doesn't mean the electorate will agree. Labour learned nothing from the last election defeat, more fool them.exactly ... Have 2 likes for winning the argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I suppose the burning question now is who is the next PM .... Boris , Osborne or May ?When Cameron stands down before the next election, you mean?yep the next leadership election but without the £3 to sabotage a party entry fee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) Good to see Kendall ruling herself out of any sort of shadow cabinet role.4% of the vote should tell her everything she needs to know about her vision for light blue labour.and yet I thought she was the candidate that supporters thought could unite the party and take it forward ? i suspect these 3 know how Dave M felt now , when events conspire against you in an election you thought was yours if the Diane Abbot in the shadow cabinet rumour is true then that noise you hear for the next 16 minutes will be me laughing my head off Edited September 12, 2015 by tonyh29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 if the Diane Abbot in the cabinet rumour is true then that noise you hear for the next 16 minutes will be me laughing my head off I'd imagine it would have all of the Tory party up in arms asking just what Cameron thought he was doing. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 ... the magic money tree... It's magic anyway. Greece was eligible to join the EU. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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