Stevo985 Posted February 16, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted February 16, 2015 Roy and Gary saying what a professional Rooney is. Yeah. Some **** professional tonight.A striker is under no obligation to go out of his way to avoid an onrushing player. "He could have avoided him" does not make it a legal tackle. In my view that was a penalty and a stupid keeper regardless of whether contact was made, because if Rooney had continued his run without any corrections then he'd have been cleaned out of it.But doesn't this mean that any time a player sidesteps a challenge or jumps over a slide tackle we'll have to give a foul? Where do you draw the line? Its almost "if that had been a foul it would have been a foul"I know there's a line, but I think a 35mph head on collision is the other side of wherever you decide to draw that line. It's an absolutely horrendous dive Brian. I cannot believe some are defending this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) A striker is under no obligation to go out of his way to avoid an onrushing player. "He could have avoided him" does not make it a legal tackle. In my view that was a penalty and a stupid keeper regardless of whether contact was made, because if Rooney had continued his run without any corrections then he'd have been cleaned out of it. But what if he did make a correction? What if he sidestepped, or checked back and put it in the net? You're effectively looking to punish something that didn't happen, or at most might have happened. Bonkers. Edited February 16, 2015 by CarewsEyebrowDesigner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted February 16, 2015 Moderator Share Posted February 16, 2015 The flip side is that a striker must take that absolute clobbering and risk a bad injury in order for the other player to have done anything wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I don't buy the argument Rooney needs to go down. Watch the Vine clip, he's clearly jumping over the keeper but chooses not to plant his foot and continue his run. It's very forced simulation of contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 He doesn't need to go down. He's hurdled the keeper and instead of putting his feet down, he's fallen over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 16, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted February 16, 2015 The flip side is that a striker must take that absolute clobbering and risk a bad injury in order for the other player to have done anything wrong. Either way. Hurdling the challenge and then throwing yourself to the floor isn't the right thing to do. Shameful dive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Rodger's would be proud of that. He'd probably call it a Uruguayan penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Atrocious dive. Rooney is disgusting. https://vine.co/v/Oxmg5tK5H6l for me its the same as the suarez dive vs us, look at the shape of his right foot, has no intention of staying on his feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 16, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) He's looking for contact, which ridicules the "he's trying to avoid contact" argument to be honest. Edited February 16, 2015 by Stevo985 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 It's pretty hilarious to suggest Rooney was in any danger. It's a routine diving tackle. No malice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 He's already avoided contact. He then chooses to go limp and fall over. 100% dive and fair play to Gary Lineker for pushing the issue a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted February 16, 2015 Moderator Share Posted February 16, 2015 Looking at the vine yeah that's a dive. My general point stands though I think. It just doesn't apply to this particular instance. It was what used to happen to Bale when he was flying towards goal and guys used to just try and flatten him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Haha at Lineker mugging Hodgson about his faces 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 England captain bravely wins penalty against violent German. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) Lineker ought to shave those pubes off his face before he mocks someone else's appearance. Edited February 16, 2015 by Davkaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I thought it was called a foul not a "might be foul". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 If your giving pens for that your taking away the keepers right to go to go to ground. Trying to avoid contact? Was he ****, he knew exactly what he was doing and the spineless studio guests dare not be critical of Rooney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Woy couldn't really but the others could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 17, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted February 17, 2015 If your giving pens for that your taking away the keepers right to go to go to ground. Trying to avoid contact? Was he ****, he knew exactly what he was doing and the spineless studio guests dare not be critical of Rooney. He was looking for contact if anything. Pathetic dive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanky Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 The keeper deserved the penalty against for a ridiculous challenge. I agree with BOF in terms of players avoiding being hurt but I'm not sure if apply it to Rooney in this case as he should not have then thrown himself to the ground when he could have stayed on his feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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