gharperr Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 (edited) i do wonder what peoples expectations were after the first 3 games. How many points were you realistically thinking we were going to get with basically a whole new team? 3 points from 3 seem fine to me. 4 would have been perfect but palace are really good now and one mistake in defence changed that... Edited August 25, 2015 by gharperr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 (edited) Im even fine with todays team selection. A lot of our players need fitness and this cup is so pointless to me. I doubt sherwood was thinking it wasnt going to open. Edited August 25, 2015 by gharperr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 i do wonder what peoples expectations were after the first 3 games. How many points were you realistically thinking we were going to get with basically a whole new team? 3 points from 3 seem fine to me. 4 would have been perfect but palace are really good now and one mistake in defence changed that... It's not just about the final scores, it's more about what goes on in the actual games. Why didn't he sub Gabby and Bacuna in the palace game? We had adequate replacements on the bench. Why not bring on kozak vs united and change the tactics Cus we lost without a fight in the end and offered nothing.? Why put out a disjointed side tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Cavalier football is back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Tim Sherwood win ratio as AV manager in cup competition : 80% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Hopefully tonight will have highlighted the lack of squad depth we have and Tim will push for a new GK, CB, ACM and Striker before the window shuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Very very concerning . Ray Wilkins needs to interject Don't be ridiculous. The day the assistant manager tries to exert authority over the manager is the day he should be sacked. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DCJonah Posted August 25, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2015 Haha so many so desperate to jump on him. He sent out a line up that we will never see in an important game, he gave minutes and chances to those that needed it. He sent a team out to out score the opposition and we did. Save it till next time. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Haha so many so desperate to jump on him. He sent out a line up that we will never see in an important game, he gave minutes and chances to those that needed it. He sent a team out to out score the opposition and we did. Save it till next time. I don't think it's jumping on him but there have been some concerning signs so far this season. However, it's obvious where our weaknesses are so hopefully Sherwood is given the resources to finish fixing the squad before next tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Haha so many so desperate to jump on him. He sent out a line up that we will never see in an important game, he gave minutes and chances to those that needed it. He sent a team out to out score the opposition and we did. Save it till next time. Remember when you got mad cos you felt you weren't allowed to criticise Lambert? Yeah, that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 What was the formation tonight? Saw the lineup and it looked like a 4-1-5? He makes some silly decisions. I hope he improves. I maintain we're not far off, just need more edge in attack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 He admitted that he knew we would be open but the boys he picked needed the game time. Thought we would have enough anyway. We did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 He admitted that he knew we would be open but the boys he picked needed the game time. Thought we would have enough anyway. We did. I'm hoping we can bring in some defensive cover, so we can play those who need it but also have good options. Not having options on the bench was odd tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 (edited) He admitted that he knew we would be open but the boys he picked needed the game time. Thought we would have enough anyway. We did. I'm hoping we can bring in some defensive cover, so we can play those who need it but also have good options. Not having options on the bench was odd tbh. I think Lescott is nailed on personally, it's just a matter of time. I would guess he'd already decided that the likes of Gana and Westwood, Richards etc were not going to play no matter what. I'm not defending the decision as such, I thought he'd gone barmy when I saw the lineup, but I can understand the logic and I think it's safe to say we won't be seeing it Saturday! Edited August 25, 2015 by dont_do_it_doug. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Lescott will be a fantastic signing I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Haha so many so desperate to jump on him. He sent out a line up that we will never see in an important game, he gave minutes and chances to those that needed it. He sent a team out to out score the opposition and we did. Save it till next time. Remember when you got mad cos you felt you weren't allowed to criticise Lambert? Yeah, that. The criticism is a joke though, people calling him clueless and tactics tim like he's bumbled around and accidentally picked this team. He knew what he was doing, he hasn't taken the league cup 100% serious and given players that need it game time. It wasn't an accident, it wasn't like he thinks that is his strongest side. He knew what he was doing, he knew the risks involved and was obviously confident we'd score more than them to go through. And he was right. Have a go at him for not taking the league cup seriously if you want, because that's the only thing he's done wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 The only issue I had with the team prior to the game was Sanchez playing CB as it turned out he was our best defender. The defensive performances of Hutton Baker and Richardson should signal the end of their Villa careers. We looked decent enough going forward but looked very insecure at the back. I would've preferred a stronger bench but if we don't give players game time we won't find out about them. Overall it's been the perfect night for TS Veretout Gil Grealish and to a degree Sanchez have put down markers and got fitter. Sinclair is getting back to his Swansea goal scoring form and Adama has shown he is a very rough diamond. Even Ayew looked sharper he just needs to work on keeping onside a bit more. A crowd of 21000 watched a very enjoyable game even if we did make it hard for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Such a troll. He knew a lot of those boys needed 120 tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Haha so many so desperate to jump on him. He sent out a line up that we will never see in an important game, he gave minutes and chances to those that needed it. He sent a team out to out score the opposition and we did. Save it till next time. Remember when you got mad cos you felt you weren't allowed to criticise Lambert? Yeah, that. The criticism is a joke though, people calling him clueless and tactics tim like he's bumbled around and accidentally picked this team. He knew what he was doing, he hasn't taken the league cup 100% serious and given players that need it game time. It wasn't an accident, it wasn't like he thinks that is his strongest side. He knew what he was doing, he knew the risks involved and was obviously confident we'd score more than them to go through. And he was right. Have a go at him for not taking the league cup seriously if you want, because that's the only thing he's done wrong. Number one thing for me is the win, so thank god it worked out. But we are talking about a manager who has made a number of errors, he has also said he doesn't want losers and yet goes into a game not taking it seriously? Secondly, his comments after the FA Cup final - this is his chance to get over that, a good chance for a trophy - if he wants to stamp out the loser mentality, this is a chance to do that. I get why you back him. I have no issues (actually, go back and read my comments here, I have been sticking up for him) but he has to stop making stupid decisions, he is not a boy, he is the manager of a team in the premiership (hey, Limpid!), and he should act like that. A loss today could lead to a loss in our next game and then when does it stop? I know it's his first full time managerial job, but he needs to learn fast. If today was a team put out by a foreign manager i'd understand, but Tim has years of experience playing, coaching and now into managing in this country and he should understand and know what a lower league team will do in the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 25, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted August 25, 2015 (edited) Formation was 4-5-1 tonight, or 4-3-3 depending on where the wide men were. I think people are overreacting to the 3 goals. It flattered Notts County. The only goal that was bad defending was the first one. The second one was a mental decision from Bunn when the player was going nowhere. And the third was a wonder strike from Burke from 30 yards. County didn't really have many other chances apart from that. Bunn made one good save and they had a decent chance in extra time, but that's about it. Sanchez, HUtton and Richardson all actually played well. Baker was the weak point. Veretout played as a dedicated DM and did it extremely well. It really wasn't as naive and "gung ho" as people are suggesting. Edited August 25, 2015 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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