briny_ear Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Lambert should have no involvement in the appointment of someone who will presumably have the power to fire him. Well, I think that view is probably a little out of step with modern executive recruitment practice, but actually I totally agree, which is why it would be pretty stupid to interpret my remarks above as suggesting he should. I wonder, though if it is the CEO who does the firing or the Board? It was the latter who hired Lambert I guess. However, these two people will have to work together as a team - Lambert is not exactly some insignificant employee whose dismissal would have no impact on the business, is he? And we can be fairly sure that Lerner will now bugger off back to the States to hang out with the Shunammites or whoever so Fox and Lambert = top team and an effective working relationship is quite crucial to the club. That's why I though Lambert's statement quoted here was odd: http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-tom-fox-can-7654338? Hasn't spoken to him, no meeting in the diary, "sure" that Tom Fox and Randy Lerner will meet him soon but clearly doesn't know when and how. He doesn't sound very much in the loop and it seems discourteous and inefficient not to have set up communications between Fox and Lambert once the appointment was on the cards. Of course, it could be that Fox's first priority is to fire Lambert, in which case it would be sensible for him to remain a bit aloof from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 because managers appoint chief executives. yeah thats how it goes Football and sport in general are a bit different to your average corporation, though. Where else would a manager get paid much more than chief executives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Lambert should have no involvement in the appointment of someone who will presumably have the power to fire him. Indeed. Sometimes people say things on this site and I think "you've really not thought past your agenda have you". This is one of those times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Honestly, I have no idea how you have extrapolated that from that interview. Very odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 In fact, it seems almost uncharacteristically positive! I've not known him so upbeat as he is right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Honestly, I have no idea how you have extrapolated that from that interview. Very odd. That makes two of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 The politics can be a distraction from the serious business of following the football side of the club. There are a few things about aston villa that don't interest me....and the politics is one of them. If we are to become a unified force you would think a bit of courtesy would be conducive to good internal relations.....but hey, I don't know what happens behind the scenes at B6....I have found it stressful enough just watching over previous seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Lambert should have no involvement in the appointment of someone who will presumably have the power to fire him. Well, I think that view is probably a little out of step with modern executive recruitment practice, but actually I totally agree, which is why it would be pretty stupid to interpret my remarks above as suggesting he should. I wonder, though if it is the CEO who does the firing or the Board? It was the latter who hired Lambert I guess. However, these two people will have to work together as a team - Lambert is not exactly some insignificant employee whose dismissal would have no impact on the business, is he? And we can be fairly sure that Lerner will now bugger off back to the States to hang out with the Shunammites or whoever so Fox and Lambert = top team and an effective working relationship is quite crucial to the club. That's why I though Lambert's statement quoted here was odd: http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-tom-fox-can-7654338? Hasn't spoken to him, no meeting in the diary, "sure" that Tom Fox and Randy Lerner will meet him soon but clearly doesn't know when and how. He doesn't sound very much in the loop and it seems discourteous and inefficient not to have set up communications between Fox and Lambert once the appointment was on the cards. Of course, it could be that Fox's first priority is to fire Lambert, in which case it would be sensible for him to remain a bit aloof from him. Yep - I posted something similar in the 'in the air thread' - I doubt Fox will have come hear to finish 15th with the finances much as they are now - he isn't here to tick over. Vital these these two get along IMO - Lambo was off the rails last season - very early results and players purchased give me hope he can take us forward - But wonder if Fox will be as patient as Lerner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Lambert should have no involvement in the appointment of someone who will presumably have the power to fire him. Well, I think that view is probably a little out of step with modern executive recruitment practice, but actually I totally agree, which is why it would be pretty stupid to interpret my remarks above as suggesting he should. I wonder, though if it is the CEO who does the firing or the Board? It was the latter who hired Lambert I guess. However, these two people will have to work together as a team - Lambert is not exactly some insignificant employee whose dismissal would have no impact on the business, is he? And we can be fairly sure that Lerner will now bugger off back to the States to hang out with the Shunammites or whoever so Fox and Lambert = top team and an effective working relationship is quite crucial to the club. That's why I though Lambert's statement quoted here was odd: http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-tom-fox-can-7654338? Hasn't spoken to him, no meeting in the diary, "sure" that Tom Fox and Randy Lerner will meet him soon but clearly doesn't know when and how. He doesn't sound very much in the loop and it seems discourteous and inefficient not to have set up communications between Fox and Lambert once the appointment was on the cards. Of course, it could be that Fox's first priority is to fire Lambert, in which case it would be sensible for him to remain a bit aloof from him. Yep - I posted something similar in the 'in the air thread' - I doubt Fox will have come hear to finish 15th with the finances much as they are now - he isn't here to tick over. Vital these these two get along IMO - Lambo was off the rails last season - very early results and players purchased give me hope he can take us forward - But wonder if Fox will be as patient as Lerner... What do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I'm sure the fantastic Mr fox will be passed a list of transfer targets Lambert drew up as soon as he starts, and will have more of a budgetary idea than the manager. I would also assume that'll be his immediate concern until the window closes Lambert doesn't need to speak to him prior to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 This Fox fella seems a bit of a sly one to me......don't trust him Lambo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Can we start to campaign to get Lambert to grow a beard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Insisting on playing Gabby & Weimann (especially at home) might be Lamberts downfall. Hopefully Keane can persuade Lambert to drop them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 He wont get the fans back on his side setting up like this at home. Obviously waiting for Benteke to return. I don't think we will full on attack untill then. For me might be to late for Lambert. Keane looks like he is waiting for the job!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 He wont get the fans back on his side setting up like this at home. Obviously waiting for Benteke to return. I don't think we will full on attack untill then. For me might be to late for Lambert. Keane looks like he is waiting for the job!! We didn't lose at home... LAMBERT OUT!! **** pathetic. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I'm prepared to wait until Benteke and Kozak our back and the transfer window closes. We've definitely improved defensively though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 He wont get the fans back on his side setting up like this at home. Obviously waiting for Benteke to return. I don't think we will full on attack untill then. For me might be to late for Lambert. Keane looks like he is waiting for the job!! Absolute rubbish. It wasn't a classic performance but we've 4 points on the board. Why should we "full out attack" when we clearly don't have a striker worth his salt at the minute? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 He wont get the fans back on his side setting up like this at home. Obviously waiting for Benteke to return. I don't think we will full on attack untill then. For me might be to late for Lambert. Keane looks like he is waiting for the job!! We didn't lose at home... LAMBERT OUT!! **** pathetic. No shots on target at home???? Not a bad game but fans pay to see better than this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 30.267 at the opening home game of the season says a lot really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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