villan_007 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I think he's worked under really crap circumstances but i also think he's done a pretty poor job. On the whole it's been crap results and dire performances. I just think a lot of managers could probably produce similar results and style of play in the same circumstances. Even though i think he's been poor i still don't think the circumstances around the club should be ignored. It's a shame he's had to work under them, i suspect we'll have to see him at another club to see how good he can really be. On results I think he's done an "OK" job. He has had, if we are too to believe that the bomb squad was "forced" upon him, the smallest budget in the league to work with, Burnley esq, he's done well to keep us hanging around. The football has been turgid. The situation with his coaches bullying players is absolutely farcical and his decision making, at times, has been boarding on barmy. But he has also shown promise, he has shown a willing to change things around, he has shown that he can get them to play a bit (however fleeting) and, as I said, we're still in the league. Then there's the fact that players *seem* to want to play for him, he handled the Benteke situation remarkably well for example. We had a lot of key injuries last year, and I think he's had a great summer considering. All he really need do is keep us up one more time and hopefully the takeover will come. Then all bets are off. No pressure Paul. Why is the coaching scenario farcical?? Something obviously happened. The relationship was rotten. That is bound to have an effect on the squad. I think it was plain to see. We bumped into Jim white on the way back from the palace game, he said the backroom scenes amongst the villa staff was poisonous thought from what he saw we were certain for the drop. No doubt you also find that farcical but this kind of thing is bound to effect the group, we had no fight in those last few weeks. It wasn't until they left we manage to get a little togetherness to limp over the line. I personally would have loved to see Lambert here with a normal setup in place. Fair play to him for sticking around. I think you can tell he wants to be here and make it work no matter what. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForfarVillan Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Think the situation has been so bad that it's very unfair to distinguish between bad management and restraints. It's not exactly been great again this window in terms of financial help but we'll see. I'm a big fan of Hutton for Scotland so I'm hoping he shows that form this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2014 Bottom line is he's got no excuses this season. He's got a full squad, done decent new signings, some old players back from the wilderness and 2 years with most of the squad. Awful fixtures early on aside (I think most of us realistically expect us on the bottom 3 come mid october no matter who's managing us) this is the year he delivers or goes No excuse... He's had £7m to spend... 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silafou's_besi_mate Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I think Paul Lambert has done a good job understand terrible circumstances and should be given a break. If you had to work in a company with the people underneath you constantly undermining you and trying to make you look stupid, you'd find it hard. That's what I think his back room team were doing last season. Coupled together with being enforced not to play some of our ' good' players e.g. The bomb squad, and not being able to have the money to spend on quality and instead had to go to the bargain bin - most people would have walked by now. I'm glad he has stayed, as leaving would have made it even worse. With the limitations Lambert has had for this transfer windows, he has done well. We need to back him and the team for the first five games and see where we are. I've not renewed my season ticket, but will be attending the first 5 home games to show my support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I think he's worked under really crap circumstances but i also think he's done a pretty poor job. On the whole it's been crap results and dire performances. I just think a lot of managers could probably produce similar results and style of play in the same circumstances. Even though i think he's been poor i still don't think the circumstances around the club should be ignored. It's a shame he's had to work under them, i suspect we'll have to see him at another club to see how good he can really be. On results I think he's done an "OK" job. He has had, if we are too to believe that the bomb squad was "forced" upon him, the smallest budget in the league to work with, Burnley esq, he's done well to keep us hanging around. The football has been turgid. The situation with his coaches bullying players is absolutely farcical and his decision making, at times, has been boarding on barmy. But he has also shown promise, he has shown a willing to change things around, he has shown that he can get them to play a bit (however fleeting) and, as I said, we're still in the league. Then there's the fact that players *seem* to want to play for him, he handled the Benteke situation remarkably well for example. We had a lot of key injuries last year, and I think he's had a great summer considering. All he really need do is keep us up one more time and hopefully the takeover will come. Then all bets are off. No pressure Paul. Why is the coaching scenario farcical?? Something obviously happened. The relationship was rotten. That is bound to have an effect on the squad. I think it was plain to see. We bumped into Jim white on the way back from the palace game, he said the backroom scenes amongst the villa staff was poisonous thought from what he saw we were certain for the drop. No doubt you also find that farcical but this kind of thing is bound to effect the group, we had no fight in those last few weeks. It wasn't until they left we manage to get a little togetherness to limp over the line. I personally would have loved to see Lambert here with a normal setup in place. Fair play to him for sticking around. I think you can tell he wants to be here and make it work no matter what. I'm really confused. You seem to disagree with me in one breath then present evidence to agree in another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Bottom line is he's got no excuses this season. He's got a full squad, done decent new signings, some old players back from the wilderness and 2 years with most of the squad. Awful fixtures early on aside (I think most of us realistically expect us on the bottom 3 come mid october no matter who's managing us) this is the year he delivers or goes No excuse... He's had £7m to spend... Exactly, and how much have other bottom half clubs had to spend? Most have been spending at least double that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 (edited) Bottom line is he's got no excuses this season. He's got a full squad, done decent new signings, some old players back from the wilderness and 2 years with most of the squad. Awful fixtures early on aside (I think most of us realistically expect us on the bottom 3 come mid october no matter who's managing us) this is the year he delivers or goes No excuse... He's had £7m to spend... That doesn't take into account the reintegration of the 'bomb-squad' though. The squad is clearly stronger than last season. Edit: Also, I thought the reason for last season's debacle was that he had to deal with a few injuries? So providing that doesn't happen this season, he should be making clear progress. Not just on last season, but the points-total of his first season. I'd say around 45 points minimum. Edited August 16, 2014 by Isa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I don't think he's got any excuse for not improving on last year. He's got plenty of excuses for not having a good season but it should be better than the abysmal year he had last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 He's spent about 50M net now in three seasons, so if we're going to base it purely on spending then he's got no excuse not to finish above at least 5 or 6 clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juteface Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I don't think he's got any excuse for not improving on last year. He's got plenty of excuses for not having a good season but it should be better than the abysmal year he had last year. You are aware the Club is for sale and that the financial restrictions are tighter now than they have been, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I don't think he's got any excuse for not improving on last year. He's got plenty of excuses for not having a good season but it should be better than the abysmal year he had last year. You are aware the Club is for sale and that the financial restrictions are tighter now than they have been, right? That's not an excuse any more. Look at the players at his disposal. Doing worse than last year is unacceptable. This is his third season, regardless of financial restraints (which he's worked well under), the excuses have run out on the pitch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I don't think he's got any excuse for not improving on last year. He's got plenty of excuses for not having a good season but it should be better than the abysmal year he had last year. You are aware the Club is for sale and that the financial restrictions are tighter now than they have been, right? No! Really? He's added experience, he's brought back the bomb squad, he has a highly respected assistant and has had two years working with the squad. There's no excuse for it to be as bad as last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 A solid defence, a clean sheet, not relying on hoofball, clever tactical subs at the right time, an away win. Lambert out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Lambert and Keane looked like a fearsome duo today. Wouldnt want to piss them off, positive start and made the right calls with the subs today. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtysanchez Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Lambert and Keane looked like a fearsome duo today. Wouldnt want to piss them off, positive start and made the right calls with the subs today. +1 Love seeing the pair of them so animated on the side line, a fantastic result today, well done lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Lambert and Keane looked like a fearsome duo today. Wouldnt want to piss them off, positive start and made the right calls with the subs today. I can imagine them doing a bit of a 'good cop, bad cop' routine in the dressing room. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 makes a difference when you have options/players to make good subs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermon Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 (edited) Lambert and Keane looked like a fearsome duo today. Wouldnt want to piss them off, positive start and made the right calls with the subs today. Absolutely loved seeing Keano on the touchline, need that type of character at the club Edited August 16, 2014 by supermon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted August 16, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted August 16, 2014 makes a difference when you have options/players to make good subs. And there's Benteke, Kozak, Sanchez etc. to add to that squad from today. We were completely written off by everyone before today, I look forward to us doing the same with everyone's predictions for our season. Lambert had faith in his signings today and they all looked to add something to our team. Good subs as has been said above, at the right times. Great win today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AValon Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Decent, sensible tactics from the off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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