andykeenan Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/aston-villa-fans-backlash-over-7552040 Clubs would be nothing without its supporters should tell us what we can or can't do soon as put a cluase in asking for trouble Chairmen of Villa’s 200-odd Lions supporters clubs around the world were told to sign up to the 20-point edict, which effectively gags them from lambasting the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 (edited) The clause us pretty simple and fair, no racism, no sexism, no antisocial behaviour, not attacking club staff by chairmen of supporters clubs on social media. All fair. Edited August 3, 2014 by CVByrne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 (edited) In point seven of the code, chairmen are effectively barred from criticising club officials, even on their own personal social media pages. It reads: “You will not partake in any abusive conversations towards anyone associated with the Club in any public forum, whether this is on a page that is personal to you and bears your name, OR on a page that bears the name of your Lions Club (including social media, Facebook, Twitter, etc).” The controls imposed on the use of personal accounts have particularly upset fans. Point four, meanwhile, imposes a ban on selling or distributing home and away tickets to anyone who is not a member of the corresponding supporters club. Point 14 adds that “The Chairperson MUST keep in regular contact with the Supporters Club Coordinator and must treat him with respect and courtesy, and without harassment at all times.” And Point 18 insists: “Above all, you will work hard to grow the fan base in your geographic area and behave in a way that upholds the values, integrity and good reputation of Aston Villa Football Club.” Edited August 3, 2014 by CVByrne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Define abuse though. If somebody posts "Sylla is shite" does that mean they can fall foul of this "charter"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Think it's to do with targeted attacks on club officials by chairman of a supporters club, essentially they lead and then social media abuse campaign can follow. Club officials are just doing their jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis_B Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 So Chairmen of SUPPORTERS clubs can't speak like a SUPPORTER and tell the club what SUPPORTERS think of the shite they are serving up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ginko Posted August 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 3, 2014 (edited) The chairmen of the supporters clubs aren't employed by Aston Villa, they are volunteers who do it because they love their team. They have a right to criticise the club just as much as any other fan does who is not a paid employee. It essentially censors their freedom of speech. Considering the way the club has been run for the past few seasons, any supporter, regardless of whether they run a fan club, has the right to express how they feel about the awful state we are in. Edited August 3, 2014 by Ginko 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuleAthon Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Seems pretty underhand to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 What a crock of shit. They are not paid employees of the club, they use up a lot of their spare time to support the club and get many supporters to the club who otherwise may not go. 2 seasons ago the police escort out the ground went. Last season we had the number of tickets the chairman could buy slashed and now they give this dictatorial code of contact to follow. I mean do they want more people to watch the Villa or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Sounds like another own goal by the club. Just what we need! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 FEAR IT!!! FEAR IT!!!! As if the club would take a blind bit of notice of what any of us work-a-day slobs say anyway. As long as there are these black holes of frustration expression like VillaTalk and Facebook, the super rich in charge of these football clubs can do whatever they like. Villa Villa Villa Villa... Do you hear that Mr Chinese Businessman? Yes that's the supporters of Aston Villa singing. Have a look out the window, there's a match going on down there. Yes they're losing now and they're a bit upset. They have chosen the referee as the subject of their aggression and disagree with a number of his decisions, when in fact they should really be upset at how much we have, and how little they have. Would you like some more nice things? Come over here, there are more nice things for you to eat and drink. So what do you think? Have you had a nice time? Do you think we can do business? A Goal! Listen to that noise. A goal for the home team I think. Look at it on that screen. Look at how all those people are now happy, having assigned value to their team's results, to distract them from how well we live compared to them. And so on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I remember when supporting this great club wasn't such a massive migraine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted August 3, 2014 Moderator Share Posted August 3, 2014 It's a bit odd. the bit that says You will not partake in any abusive conversations towards anyone associated with the Club in any public forum...on a page that is personal to you and bears your name - is IMO OTT in terms of imposing rules on people that are outside of their (unpaid) roles. Can't imagine why they've put that in. Yes, I understand that abuse is not nice and is undesirable for many reasons. But I haven't noticed a problem with it from any Lions Club chairmen. I'd be amazed if the club has either. And if they did, it would be better to contact that person individually, rather than put this clause in, which looks distrustful and disrespectful towards people who do a lot for the club and supporters.It's just clumsy and defensive. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Good ol' Birmingham Mail shit stirring again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Good ol' Birmingham Mail shit stirring again. They're just reporting what the Chairman have to say. Should a newspaper not report the news? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Good ol' Birmingham Mail shit stirring again. Or good ol Aston villa making another mistake. Like blandy said, the way it's worded is just asking for it to be taken in a negative manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Good ol' Birmingham Mail shit stirring again. Agreed. Another fumble by the paper. They have been on a massive decline recently. Bit worrying. As for Chairmen/women who want to express themselves by personally abusing people online, yeah I wouldn't want them either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveburnside Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Good ol' Birmingham Mail shit stirring again. Agreed. Another fumble by the paper. They have been on a massive decline recently. Bit worrying. As for Chairmen/women who want to express themselves by personally abusing people online, yeah I wouldn't want them either. why is it a fumble by the paper? i dont agree with that at all. Its the clubs mess up is being reported, and so it should be 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Good ol' Birmingham Mail shit stirring again. Agreed. Another fumble by the paper. They have been on a massive decline recently. Bit worrying. As for Chairmen/women who want to express themselves by personally abusing people online, yeah I wouldn't want them either. They never said they wanted to abuse people online. They said they didn't need to the club telling them what they could and couldn't do. Abuse is one thing, voicing an opinion is another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Good ol' Birmingham Mail shit stirring again. Agreed. Another fumble by the paper. They have been on a massive decline recently. Bit worrying. As for Chairmen/women who want to express themselves by personally abusing people online, yeah I wouldn't want them either. They never said they wanted to abuse people online. They said they didn't need to the club telling them what they could and couldn't do. Abuse is one thing, voicing an opinion is another. Exactly. Which is why it says abuse not opinion. Again an obvious non story by the mail. Who are they hiring over there as journalists these days? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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