LxYoungAVFC Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Don´t like that team at all... Maybe Albrighton and Tonev as early subs after we have soaked up the pressure for 60 minutes? 3-1 Palace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwan Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 If you cant see the lunacy of this formatiom, then I don't know. I don't think you can possibly get a formation more negative than this Well, it's obvious we can't lose this game. Palace are good on the counter attack, if we go at them we'll lose. Not losing this game is more important than winning imo. It's not a philosophy I like but on this occasion I think it's correct.Hoping for a point against Palace. That just gets me going What formation/team would you play then to setup for a win? We have players on the bench who can come on and change it. If we start with them all the only changes we can make are negative ones. 442 I think was what I said. Guzan Lowton Vlaar Clark Bertrand Albrighton Westwood Delph Tonev Holt whoever not named weimann Simple formation. Everyone knows what to do and who to pass it to. But hoof and pray it is That midfield of 4 will get murdered against Palaces' 5. Could just replace it with KEA and match the midfield five. Either way, it's better than 5 in the back. While we have had our defensive problems, most of them have been self afflicted. Inviting the pressure will do nothing more than inviting the inevitable flukey goal. We have had a torrential time scoring and this formation will do nothing to appease that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwishIwasalivein1982 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Lambert doesn't want to disrupt his central midfield trio of Delph - Westwood - El Ahmadi. I'm not saying whether that's a good thing or a bad thing, but all his choices are revolving around that. I think he'll be hoping Lowton will be crossing a fair share of ball from the right, hence why there's no Albrighton at the start (whose inclusion would also unsettle the midfield 3) and on the left that Bertrand, Delph and Gabby's movement from deeper positions can unsettle and overload their right flank. I would be quite content with a point. Take any that you can get. Whenever we've had a fully fit starting 11 and played 4-3-3 we've done well. The players know how to link up in that case so I think trying to preserve it is a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted April 12, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted April 12, 2014 Could just replace it with KEA and match the midfield five. Either way, it's better than 5 in the back. While we have had our defensive problems, most of them have been self afflicted. Inviting the pressure will do nothing more than inviting the inevitable flukey goal. We have had a torrential time scoring and this formation will do nothing to appease that. Yeah I do see your point of view. I just think it will be better to keep things tight for the first 45-70minutes (depending how it goes) and then change things around to try and nick a win. This villa team are incapable of playing well for 90 minutes, we seem to do it in little bursts so I'd keep things level, then change things towards the end of the game and hope we have one of those bursts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Had a feeling Weimann was going to get dropped after Lambert came out and defended him in the media during the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 For me, I'm completely in agreement with Kwan. Lambert needs to pull something out of the hat here. I won't judge anything until the game is over - maybe it's a tactical masterstroke - but that team looks well set up to grind out a 0-0 draw in a boring and frustrating meat grinder. I'd be disappointed with that formation and teamsheet at the Etihad, but to be selecting it at Selhurst Park, against the team with the lowest number of goals scored at home, is mortifying. Where is a goal going to come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted April 12, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted April 12, 2014 For me, I'm completely in agreement with Kwan. Lambert needs to pull something out of the hat here. I won't judge anything until the game is over - maybe it's a tactical masterstroke - but that team looks well set up to grind out a 0-0 draw in a boring and frustrating meat grinder. I'd be disappointed with that formation and teamsheet at the Etihad, but to be selecting it at Selhurst Park, against the team with the lowest number of goals scored at home, is mortifying. Where is a goal going to come from? I'd struggle to see where a goal is coming from regardless of what formation we play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwishIwasalivein1982 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 For me, I'm completely in agreement with Kwan. Lambert needs to pull something out of the hat here. I won't judge anything until the game is over - maybe it's a tactical masterstroke - but that team looks well set up to grind out a 0-0 draw in a boring and frustrating meat grinder. I'd be disappointed with that formation and teamsheet at the Etihad, but to be selecting it at Selhurst Park, against the team with the lowest number of goals scored at home, is mortifying. Where is a goal going to come from? I'd struggle to see where a goal is coming from regardless of what formation we play. From Grant Holt of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandaq Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Not sure what to expect, as **** always. Intriguing match line up and setup but not sure how it will go. UTV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 12, 2014 Moderator Share Posted April 12, 2014 Motty really should be put out to seed now shouldn't he? The game passes him by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwan Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) Could just replace it with KEA and match the midfield five. Either way, it's better than 5 in the back. While we have had our defensive problems, most of them have been self afflicted. Inviting the pressure will do nothing more than inviting the inevitable flukey goal. We have had a torrential time scoring and this formation will do nothing to appease that.Yeah I do see your point of view. I just think it will be better to keep things tight for the first 45-70minutes (depending how it goes) and then change things around to try and nick a win. This villa team are incapable of playing well for 90 minutes, we seem to do it in little bursts so I'd keep things level, then change things towards the end of the game and hope we have one of those bursts. The worst part is that I completely understand where Lambert is coming from. But this Palace team has less goals than us. Before the Cardiff game I think they had only scored one goal from open play since the turn of the new year. Even if you consider all our injuries, you would think that he recognized no amount of players in the back will cover up for a bone headed error, which is what a LOT of our goals have been during this bad run. Lamberts answer used to be, "Sod it, we have to score." Now his answer is, "Well, hopefully they don't score." Whatever the situation and injuries may be, I would prefer not to become the team that sets out 5 defenders hoping to knick it from Palace of all teams. Edited April 12, 2014 by Kwan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Only one result is good enough, and that's a win, a draw isn't good enough and a loss will be unforgivable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Sorry to bore some with the same line but no way would the same people defending playing not to lose away to Palace defend McLeish if he had done the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Come on peeps, it's Saturday.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 COME on VILLA !!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted April 12, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted April 12, 2014 Sorry to bore some with the same line but no way would the same people defending playing not to lose away to Palace defend McLeish if he had done the same. Depends on the situation and the players available. As I said earlier, 5-3-2 can quickly change to 3-5-2 and can be quite attacking. If Lambert had have picked Heskey to play left wing and Hutton right wing then i'd be moaning. But the team is balanced and can work. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I could understand us playing 3 cbs against Man City or Chelsea but this is Palace. At 4.50/55 we will be either calling Lambert a tactical genius or a fool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Sorry to bore some with the same line but no way would the same people defending playing not to lose away to Palace defend McLeish if he had done the same. Depends on the situation and the players available. As I said earlier, 5-3-2 can quickly change to 3-5-2 and can be quite attacking. If Lambert had have picked Heskey to play left wing and Hutton right wing then i'd be moaning. But the team is balanced and can work. Oh god, I really didn't ever want to remember Heskey on the wing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Sorry to bore some with the same line but no way would the same people defending playing not to lose away to Palace defend McLeish if he had done the same. Depends on the situation and the players available. As I said earlier, 5-3-2 can quickly change to 3-5-2 and can be quite attacking. If Lambert had have picked Heskey to play left wing and Hutton right wing then i'd be moaning. But the team is balanced and can work. When have we ever played a 3-5-2 that doesn't revert into a 5-3-------2 this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain4Life Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Good luck, The Villa. Here's hoping for the best and fearing the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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