Richard Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Hope we sign him because we have a first team of about 11 players really and we need a 12th man here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villastine Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Makes sense for Norwich to make it awkward for us. For a number of reasons. 1. He's a popular player there, even if Hughton doesn't seem to rate him as much as Norwich fans do. 2. Even if he doesn't always make the starting XI, he still makes the squad. Not many sides would weaken their squad at this time of year for an extra 750k 3. That offer of 750k is derisory. Though I accept on that last point, it is perhaps just an opening salvo from us and we'll naturally go higher. If I was them, I'm not sure I'd even let him go for £3/4 million though. His age might be a consideration, but injuries to current first teamers or the cost of replacing him would be a bigger one. £3 or £4 million!!! FFS we are talking about Wes Hoolahan. If Lambert had £4million to spend on an attacking midfielder he wouldn’t be looking at Hoolahan. With £750,000 in the bank and looking for a quick fix, Hoolahan becomes an option. By the way PL usually only played him in home prem games when he was at Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted January 9, 2014 Moderator Share Posted January 9, 2014 By the way PL usually only played him in home prem games when he was at Norwich.That's not true. It's an even split for his Premier League season '11/'12. Similarly '09/'10 and '10/'11 in the lower leagues. Basically he used him all the time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villastine Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 By the way PL usually only played him in home prem games when he was at Norwich. That's not true. It's an even split for his Premier League season '11/'12. Similarly '09/'10 and '10/'11 in the lower leagues. Basically he used him all the time. Ok so he started just under two thirds of their games. I remember PL dropping him an optiing to play two target men instead, think it was Morrision and Holt. Cannot see what he would add to us in away games when we set up to counter attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 By the way PL usually only played him in home prem games when he was at Norwich. That's not true. It's an even split for his Premier League season '11/'12. Similarly '09/'10 and '10/'11 in the lower leagues. Basically he used him all the time. Ok so he started just under two thirds of their games. I remember PL dropping him an optiing to play two target men instead, think it was Morrision and Holt. Cannot see what he would add to us in away games when we set up to counter attack. Who gives a toss really? our away record is one of the best in the league. It's at home we need something else. I'd be happy if he just played at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villastine Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Who gives a toss really? our away record is one of the best in the league. It's at home we need something else. I'd be happy if he just played at home. We will need more than Hoolahan to sort out our home form. My original point was that he is not worth anything over £1million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Who gives a toss really? our away record is one of the best in the league. It's at home we need something else. I'd be happy if he just played at home. We will need more than Hoolahan to sort out our home form. My original point was that he is not worth anything over £1million. It was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 He's "worth" what we have to pay to get him, if we want him. I have no evidence to back this up but I suspect fees get inflated during the winter window because buying clubs are more desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny*Nunny Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Looks like Jed Steer compensation will be a lever to bump the price up next week. (Compensation when out of contract???) I'll be very surprised if the Hoolahan move doesn't happen. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/aston-villa-transfers-wes-hoolahan-3005826 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoncb Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) 1mill fee and 15k wages seems about right for Hoolahan. Edited January 9, 2014 by jasoncb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 1mill fee and 15k wages seems about right for Hoolahan. Wouldn't be too big a disaster if we did get him for that although hopefully we'll have some other superior signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 With the news regarding Ireland I'd now be a bit dissapointed with this. A quality AM would make big difference, could we not afford better than this in such a key position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Thinking this is a good signing shows our desperation He is very underrated. The Norwich fans love him (and Norwich fans are pretty sound). They loved Lambert as well. As anyone would've who took a club to two straight promotions and kept them up? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 By the way PL usually only played him in home prem games when he was at Norwich. That's not true. It's an even split for his Premier League season '11/'12. Similarly '09/'10 and '10/'11 in the lower leagues. Basically he used him all the time. Ok so he started just under two thirds of their games. I remember PL dropping him an optiing to play two target men instead, think it was Morrision and Holt. Cannot see what he would add to us in away games when we set up to counter attack. You are not considering the possibility that with Hoolahan in the team we might not have to set up to counter attack in away games. With a playmaker it gives you more flexibility tactically. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) By the way PL usually only played him in home prem games when he was at Norwich. That's not true. It's an even split for his Premier League season '11/'12. Similarly '09/'10 and '10/'11 in the lower leagues. Basically he used him all the time. Ok so he started just under two thirds of their games. I remember PL dropping him an optiing to play two target men instead, think it was Morrision and Holt. Cannot see what he would add to us in away games when we set up to counter attack. You are not considering the possibility that with Hoolahan in the team we might not have to set up to counter attack in away games. With a playmaker it gives you more flexibility tactically. Also possible that Hoolahan may be a back-up for that position if we can get him cheap, I'd be worried if we brought him in as our only 'number 10' as we'd be left with no creativity again should he take a knock. Obviously if there is no option of bringing in more than one player we'll have to make do. Edited January 9, 2014 by samjp26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 With the news regarding Ireland I'd now be a bit dissapointed with this. A quality AM would make big difference, could we not afford better than this in such a key position? Ireland was already gone for the season, his wages would not have been counted anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Just came across this from 2009, quite funny: "I'm not going to push them out the door but they'll find it hard to play here. I'll go with the group of lads that's done well," said Lambert, in reference to Wes Hoolahan and Gary Doherty who he tried to sell at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Just came across this from 2009, quite funny: "I'm not going to push them out the door but they'll find it hard to play here. I'll go with the group of lads that's done well," said Lambert, in reference to Wes Hoolahan and Gary Doherty who he tried to sell at the time. That was right at the beginning of his time at the club. I've seen that quote a lot, and I don't understand the point. Seeing a player play for 3 years on your team shouldn't be able to change your mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Just came across this from 2009, quite funny: "I'm not going to push them out the door but they'll find it hard to play here. I'll go with the group of lads that's done well," said Lambert, in reference to Wes Hoolahan and Gary Doherty who he tried to sell at the time. That was right at the beginning of his time at the club. I've seen that quote a lot, and I don't understand the point. Seeing a player play for 3 years on your team shouldn't be able to change your mind? I'm not saying he can't change his mind or even slating Wes Hoolahan - I find it funny how times change, a player that Lambert was actively trying to sell is now a player he is trying to buy at another club and also a player that Norwich fans are getting angry about potentially losing. Maybe Joe Bennett will come back as the new Leighton Baines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Just came across this from 2009, quite funny: "I'm not going to push them out the door but they'll find it hard to play here. I'll go with the group of lads that's done well," said Lambert, in reference to Wes Hoolahan and Gary Doherty who he tried to sell at the time. That was right at the beginning of his time at the club. I've seen that quote a lot, and I don't understand the point. Seeing a player play for 3 years on your team shouldn't be able to change your mind? I'm not saying he can't change his mind or even slating Wes Hoolahan - I find it funny how times change, a player that Lambert was actively trying to sell is now a player he is trying to buy at another club and also a player that Norwich fans are getting angry about potentially losing. Maybe Joe Bennett will come back as the new Leighton Baines. Yeah sorry about that. I was more responding to people on twitter (like Howard hodgson) who were ridiculing lambert for changing his mind on hoolahan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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