JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I'd have no problem with a takeover by red bull on the following conditions. 1. The name is not altered in any way. We are "Aston Villa Football Club" 2. The name of the stadium is not altered in any way. We play at "Villa Park" 3. The clubs colours are claret and blue. Beyond that they could do what they want. Youve pretty much left nothing in it for them then... . Jesus get witht he times even if they "changed" the name of the stadium it would still be VILLA PARK to us, the game has evolved, people need to if they want success too. Dont see why anyone would change our name as we have one of the most unique and beautiful names in the game. Colours ive always been sort of touch and go about (Dont like our badge either). West Ham, Burnley, Scunthorpe etc. Obviously I would rather nothing changed and we just got the cash but..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 What if they took us over, rebranded the whole works, erased our history, then a bunch of other billionaires take over at Swansea, Everton, Southampton and Fulham and we're still facing mediocrity? But that's already happened to some degree, hasn't it? The only matter is how many millions/billions the owners have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 What if they took us over, rebranded the whole works, erased our history, then a bunch of other billionaires take over at Swansea, Everton, Southampton and Fulham and we're still facing mediocrity? But that's already happened to some degree, hasn't it? The only matter is how many millions/billions the owners have. Exactly. I always believe that the fans are the identity of the club, not the owners anyway. If there owners were the identity, what would that say about us under Lerner or Ellis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 "Red Bull Villa" has a certain ring to it in my view. Might be a safer bet than being taken over my some maverick solo billionaire who either spends the next few years fighting off incarceration in his home country for massive fraud, or starts appointing his son's mates to key posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) I don't know if this counts for much in either direction but apparently Howard Hodgson on twitter has said that the rumours are false. Also according to this article on a website called Sports Direct News, Houllier denied the story in an interview with a Belgium paper when it first broke about them wanting to buy a Premier league team. I'm surprised the club hasn't denied it yet, if not officially then through someone like Mystery Man or Hairy Hands. I don't remember that they said anything regarding the QIA rumours either though. Edited November 21, 2013 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 How are Red Bull's other franchises performing? Do they put in Abu Dhabi levels of investment and could we expect to see Messi in the Aston Travelodge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted November 21, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 21, 2013 What if they took us over, rebranded the whole works, erased our history, then a bunch of other billionaires take over at Swansea, Everton, Southampton and Fulham and we're still facing mediocrity? But that's already happened to some degree, hasn't it? The only matter is how many millions/billions the owners have. Yes it's happened to some degree in terms of millionaires buying clubs but we haven't sold our soul for it that's the point. I'm saying they could virtually erase the Aston Villa we know and we still might not even be successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisVillan Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 For me, the level of success is no way to inform an opinion on this. If any part of your view is "depends if it works or not" then we're very different types of supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted November 21, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) What if they took us over, rebranded the whole works, erased our history, then a bunch of other billionaires take over at Swansea, Everton, Southampton and Fulham and we're still facing mediocrity? No thanks. As above, I could take the away kit and possibly a stadium name change, but any further and I'd rather support an average team doing it the right way. A lot of 'what ifs' in there. You can never erase the history of the club, as that is there for the record books. In that history however, the club has change its kit many many times, before settling on claret and blue. If Red Bull came in to buy the club, changed the name of the ground, sponsored the shirts, gave us the Red Bull 'uniform' for the away kit I'd be okay with it. Living in the UAE, I can tell you that the Man City profile over here is massive, yet they're still Man City. They are sponsored by Etihad and play at the Etihad, but they're still Man City. Etihad even means "United", but no one gives a shit, lol. Aston Villa FC playing at the Red Bull Villa Park, owned and sponsored by Red Bull, competing for champions league football would be progressive evolution of the club for me. I count one 'what if' The kit has been claret and blue since 1887! And then you agreed that a few changes would be acceptable but nothing major, in exchange for Champions League, which is arguably a fair deal. Edited November 21, 2013 by fightoffyour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Red Bull aren't big enough, someone send an email to Apple I hear they have a fair bit of cash going spare these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisVillan Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Red Bull aren't big enough, someone send an email to Apple I hear they have a fair bit of cash going spare these days. They need all that to pay off the people who invented all "their" products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Be interesting to do some sort of poll to see where the line is with fans over takeovers. I wouldn't want to see our colours change or name changed but I think that is about it. I wouldn't mind the stadium having a different name because fans would still call it Villa Park. I would like to see us win something or get into the CL though, at the moment I cant even see it happening in my life time. I think we are more likely to get relegated before we next win something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisVillan Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 That would be interesting, this thread has brought up a lot of those questions. Wrong side of the line for me: Name change Colours change Badge change (unless it's a good change from the current one) And overnight success. Clearly there are people in here who want that, and that's fine. Do I want success? Of course. And a bit more money to spend on the team as well - who wouldn't? But if we had a big injection of cash I'd much rather 'my' club put a significant proportion of it into the infrastructure and steadily built a team from a blend of moderate-to-biggish signings and a brilliant youth system. Targeting Champions League knockout stages in ten years rather than two, that sort of thing. The rebranding is what people seem to baulk at when it comes to Red Bull. Ultimately, spending £500m to build a title-challenging team over two transfer windows is kind of a rebranding process too. In short: I don't like change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I'm not really sure why changing the name of the stadium would bother a lot of people unless it was changed to something completely tacky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Like the Red Bull Arena you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Like the Red Bull Arena you mean? I don't find that particularly tacky so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 its a hideously tacky name for an absolute disgusting product. Be like calling it the Burger King Arena or KFC park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I'd rather support mid table Aston Villa as we are now, playing at Villa Park in claret and blue. Than support Champions League challenging Red Bull Villa that play at the Red Bull arena and play in white, yellow and red. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 its a hideously tacky name for an absolute disgusting product. Be like calling it the Burger King Arena or KFC park Disgusting product?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 What's the point in getting taken over now? Financial Fair Play means that it's too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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