punkiller1981

It is interesting how Southgate basically sold him to Man City for us with his nonesense about needing to be involved in the champions league and big games! I assume he meant watching from the bench and taking in the atmosphere (I know he started last night but won’t again after that performance). The same could also be said for Phillips as well who 8 weeks before the start of the World Cup has made zero starts since joining city and probably won’t make many because he is way down the pecking order. Good stuff Gareth these players really are improving at city. I think most people thought it was the wrong move for jack given the managers style of play but it’s embarrassing how poor he looks in this team. He looks like a competition winner or that lad that comes for a trial and gets thrown in with all the established players.

Overall I’m pleased with the performance today. Interestingly thought we improved with cash and Mcginn going off. I have been critical of gerrard for lack of a proper plan but credit today was a performance with a plan in my mind. Although we always seem to put in better performances albeit usually in a plucky defeat against the better sides. What we can’t tolerate is a poor set of performance in the next few games, back to having no plan again. We must use this as a spring board otherwise we will be back to gerrard out again

Chris Sutton spotted Gerarrds shit tactics within 5 minutes

Holly **** we are so poor it’s embarrassing

It’s a pub league where he had the best players for probably all but 2 games of the season

The pundits do piss me off with the will turn it around and give him time. We operate in a league were having time doesn’t exist which is why elite managers (Conte for example) go to average sides and pick them up straight away and average mangers Steal money while improving nothing and in our case making is worse. the biggest worry for me is that I don’t see with the current set up in place a way of turning it around and what further damage will be so before he goes. I think the mings captaincy shambles will have a bigger impact than he realised by creating a problem where one didn’t exist

I’m not sure when a Villa manager has been blessed with the attacking talent we have available to us at the moment but I’m also not sure I’ve seen a side looking less likely to score or break a side down. Tactically gerrard is either to inept to notice how poor we are or to arrogant to accept it. I do agree though that purslow won’t sack him, this is the one manger we should sack but he will stick with him despite his record which is now pathetic.

And why are they well set up? The manager setting them up properly with a game plan and tactics. We have a manger incapable of that because he thinks everybody in our squad is as good as he was and there not and he can’t get his head around that. Not having a go by the way but seeing sides well organised as a reason for out playing us makes me angry because your right but this is our mangers job! He literally gets paid a fortune to ensure we are organised and know what we are doing. Feels like that mega training ground must have been a waste of money because we clearly aren’t using it

He won’t I agree but can anyone see him getting on the bench ahead of say Gallagher or loftus cheek ? And if he does will he ever get on the pitch

A lot of blame has to lie with the glaziers but watching Neville and redknapp yesterday something Neville said interested me when he was on about the stadium etc was that they had £350 million in the bank three years ago and now they are down to £30 million. Is that suggesting that they are now not making the money they used to be? I think Utd are a victim of their own size because they are almost unbuyable with the figures the glaziers would to see the club. Add the near billion in debt and rising its not as appealing as it once was. Side note why does Gary Neville get to use sky sports as his own Utd podcast

And has played 12 games or so in the premier league. He might turn out to be a world beater but he might also be a loftus cheek style player that’s stuck with Chelsea and got to 26 and not even got close to 100 games. Either way the lack of games I think he will get are not our problem anymore

Fairly simple for me if he isn’t going to sign which looks likely we pop him in to the lowest level of training we have to do we don’t waste anymore money on developing him for someone else. we can concentrate on developing lads that do want to play for us and he can ponder how he gets into Barcelona’s team while not getting any development for a year. remember we owe this lad nothing and he owes us nothing however I just don’t see how he gets into a side higher up the food chain given the 14 or so games he has played

Welcome to mens football son. Nothing much in the challenge for me

I completely agree. At 18 hardly started a premier league game, if you get a decent contract offer from your current established premier league club you sign it and carry on your development because the club clearly rate you and if they didn’t they wouldn’t waste money paying your wages. The attitude to the contract offer by him is one of a player who has played 50+ games preformed well and has a que of suitors at his door. He does not as far as I am aware so could potentially wast a year of what isn’t a very long career because he rates himself more than anyone else does.

I just can’t see it. I think Bielsa did a phenomenal job of making what is a mid table championship team with 2 very good players (both of whom will not be there next season) massively over perform. He knew that ran them into the ground to the point that it stopped working and went at the right time for him before it all went completely wrong. my personal view is take out Phillips and raphina they had and still have a bottom 3 squad. My opinion under bielsa was that if you don’t match the running you will get beaten and a few lazy sides did but match the work rate and the reality of how bad copper, ayling, glick, bamford, James, etc really are became very obvious.

To fair jukewicz is younger than deeney but that’s a fairly shocking front 3 probably all on the highest wages at the club too. Jukewicz does annoyingly have a tendency to get them a goal in games they really should lose so I would say he has probably kept them up the last few years

With Phillips gone raphina all but gone with a side that for the most part last season I thought were pathetic especially when Phillips wasn’t there I really am surprised that people think this has been a good window for them. I think it looks disastrous for them

I would hold that thought with Leeds. If they keep Phillips and raphina then yes probably but I think they are both likely to leave and I would say that leaves them weaker than last season arguably

It’s a very Everton signing if that goes through. The guy is shit and hasn’t been near the first team for two years. if Everton sign him and tarkowski I can’t really see how they are improving on the current squad while also likely loosing richarleson they could be in real trouble again

Crazy thing with that statement is that his own captain and undroppable striker has not played champions league football for 3 years. Although to be fair Southgate might have written his transfer request for him last summer

Good deal for us I think. Signed a player in our first season back who at the time we probably slightly overplayed for but who also helped us establish ourselves in the premier league and then shipped on for a profit when we outgrew him. let’s remember he went on loan because he wasn’t good enough to be our first choice left back.

Southgate has that nack of making good players look poor and idealess and those subs **** me

Just a thought here but is Jack in danger of becoming a bit of a parody? Just looking in the paper and the stories are about him partying on holiday with d list celebrities. let’s be honest this season he hasn’t really been in the papers for his football this season and I think from a personal perspective (not a trophy perspective) his performances have been very poor compared to the previous two seasons. He seems to me to be in danger of getting more paper time for his off the field shambles than what he does on it. he is getting paid a fortune every week and picking up trophies for watching his team mates play so I doubt he cares but i do wonder if we are seeing a wasted talent being driven by a poor greedy agent.

Free transfer!!!!! Seems like a crazy good bit of business to me

I found it a strange game it had a very end of season feel to it from us where we dominated the ball for large parts but the urgency to go after the win seemed lacking a little bit. Also I found it odd because I hate Leeds and want them to go down so I went into the game wanting us to maybe not win but as soon as the game kicks off that’s gone and I’m desperate for the win. Difficult to pick to much out really. I thought mings and chambers looked good and they block from mings was incredible although the guy shouldn’t have gave him a chance to block. The full backs ads looking decent and overall we looked very comfortable. a note as well for nick pope, the guy had a terrific game but that save from Bert was world class