LondonLax Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 They’re doing fine. Rumours of their demise are greatly exaggerated. Arsenal on the other hand... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Depends how their fans define fine In the context of Liverpool and City having record breaking seasons and smashing everyone and utds fans sitting there thinking "that should be us" then they're way off, fortunately for them the gap this year will significantly decrease and they will be what I consider fine Ole still makes some baffling decisions though, seems like he's fortunate to have good players that can paper over cracks, Fernandes in particular They have massive defence and midfield issues though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, One For The Road said: How on earth are we all of a sudden not even in striking distance of Man United? If we won our game in hand, we would still be behind them. If they won their own game in hand, they'd be 2nd. Quite a turnaround. They've not lost a game since end of October. Won 5 of their last 6 league games. Huge disappointment for them going out of CL but they've actually been doing alright in the league for quite a while now and have more winnable fixtures in next 3-4 weeks. Edited December 18, 2020 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Rds1983 said: We have two games in hand, if we win both we'd have 25 points. That puts us top 4 and possibly 2nd depending on goal difference and Man City!/United results. My point was that we are 4 points behind Man United all of a sudden, with just one game in hand. After being so about points above them at one stage. Edited December 19, 2020 by One For The Road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted December 19, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2020 6 hours ago, One For The Road said: My point was that we are 4 points behind Man United all of a sudden, with just one game in hand. After being so about 8 points above them at one stage. Okay, bit thrown by you saying 'not even in striking distance' when we're 4 points behind with a game in hand. Agree they've had a good run of form and we've had a few bad (home) games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 21 minutes ago, Rds1983 said: Okay, bit thrown by you saying 'not even in striking distance' when we're 4 points behind with a game in hand. Why has that thrown you? If you are 4 points behind a team with a game hand then you are, categorically, not within striking distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted December 19, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, One For The Road said: Why has that thrown you? If you are 4 points behind a team with a game hand then you are, categorically, not within striking distance. You win the game in hand and you're 1 point behind. I don't consider 1 point to be a big difference. Each to their own though bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rds1983 said: You win the game in hand and you're 1 point behind. I don't consider 1 point to be a big difference. Each to their own though bud. It's not an ambiguous situation though. Striking distance literally means that you can strike/hit/reach them with that one win. To be in within striking distance with one game in hand, they would have to be within 3 points of us. They may well be by the end of this gameweek but, currently, they aren't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted December 19, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2020 Just now, One For The Road said: It's not an ambiguous situation though. Striking distance literally means that you can strike/hit/reach them with that one win. To be in within striking distance with one game in hand, they would have to be within 3 points of us. They may well be by the end of this gameweek but, currently, they aren't. The definition of striking distance is something which can be easily achieved or is almost in reach. There is no requirement for it to be within one game and one point over the rest of the season is achievable, as Utd have caught us up as you've said. I said I agree with your point they've had a good bit of form whilst ours has slipped a bit, it was just the way you phrased it which we disagree on. There's better things to be talking about so let's move on and stop debating over the definition of a word/phrase. Have a good weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Rds1983 said: The definition of striking distance is something which can be easily achieved or is almost in reach. There is no requirement for it to be within one game and one point over the rest of the season is achievable, as Utd have caught us up as you've said. I said I agree with your point they've had a good bit of form whilst ours has slipped a bit, it was just the way you phrased it which we disagree on. There's better things to be talking about so let's move on and stop debating over the definition of a word/phrase. Have a good weekend. I agree with the fact we should move on but if something is in striking distance it literally means it can be struck, not that you can just get near it. Anyway, lets hope that by the end of this weekend, we have gained on them, as I'd love to be above them when we play the in a couple of weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Liverpool and Manchester United title race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) On 09/12/2020 at 11:45, villalad21 said: They ain't winning the league buddy. Probably ain't winning anything. Not until they get in a proper manager The tactics yesterday was a prime example in why they won't win anything under the current setup. Yest now say they are in the title race Edited December 20, 2020 by Zatman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Liverpool will win the league by 10 + points. Away form will start balancing out for Man. United once they play likes of Man. City, Spurs, Chelsea etc who've all got points at OT so far. Perhaps Arsenal aswell if they've got a new manager by then. It's easy to forget Man. United did finish 3rd last year despite showing similar form to Arsenal this time 12 months back (they'd just lost 2-0 at Watford). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Zatman said: Yest now say they are in the title race 2 points behind Liverpool if they win their game in hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenfly Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, Zatman said: Yest now say they are in the title race You'd be silly to write them off completely. Look how they're doing against the greatest team in the history of all football. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Greenfly said: You'd be silly to write them off completely. Look how they're doing against the greatest team in the history of all football. Against the greatest manager that ever existed as well! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenfly Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Just now, villalad21 said: Against the greatest manager that ever existed as well! Just hand them the title right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Yet OGS should be sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Will be in 2nd place after this game. Weird season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbs Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, villalad21 said: 2 points behind Liverpool if they win their game in hand We'll be 2nd if we win all our games in hand - very strange season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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