His Name Is Death Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Mark Albrighton said: It’s going to be difficult to square good guy Marcus Rashford hugging and celebrating with Greenwood. The contradiction goes away when you treat his 'good causes' for what they are: PR exercises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mark Albrighton Posted August 18, 2023 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2023 Just now, His Name Is Death said: The contradiction goes away when you treat his 'good causes' for what they are: PR exercises. Oh I think Rashford is completely genuine and sincere with trying to get kids free school meals and the like. Some footballers who go to a kids hospital ward or wherever, I’m sure they don’t mind doing it by and large, happy to do it even. But it I could see how it might be considered something of a community duty that they’re fulfilling. Part of the job, if you like. I don’t think that’s the case with Rashford. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, VillaJ100 said: It did and his defence was basically "Sure I treat women like dirt but that doesn't mean I'm a rapist" I guess the difference is that his case was actually tested in court. You kind of have to just accept that justice can work both ways. With Greenwood it didn't go to court because he's managed to worm his way back into the girls life and avoid the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 38 minutes ago, desensitized43 said: I guess the difference is that his case was actually tested in court. You kind of have to just accept that justice can work both ways. With Greenwood it didn't go to court because he's managed to worm his way back into the girls life and avoid the consequences. Worm his way in breaking the conditions of his bail no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, His Name Is Death said: The contradiction goes away when you treat his 'good causes' for what they are: PR exercises. Nah, Rashford doesn't have to do any of that. He's doing it because he believes in it, not for PR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, desensitized43 said: I guess the difference is that his case was actually tested in court. You kind of have to just accept that justice can work both ways. With Greenwood it didn't go to court because he's managed to worm his way back into the girls life and avoid the consequences. there's also the greenwood recording.... i can see why other footballers would defend mendy, or at least if not defending mendy support some of the things depay said cant see any reason why anyone would defend or support greenwood, the recording is horrific Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Let's be honest, when we're talking about footballers and their social media reactions, we're not assessing the in-depth deliberations of the finest minds of our generation here. I doubt many of them gave it much more thought than "Oh he's been found innocent [I know] so he didn't do it, and he's got a chance to get his career back". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, villa4europe said: there's also the greenwood recording.... i can see why other footballers would defend mendy, or at least if not defending mendy support some of the things depay said cant see any reason why anyone would defend or support greenwood, the recording is horrific And another thing to remember, if she’s gone to the trouble / risk of recording it that time how many others were there? It could be dozens. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 52 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Let's be honest, when we're talking about footballers and their social media reactions, we're not assessing the in-depth deliberations of the finest minds of our generation here. I doubt many of them gave it much more thought than "Oh he's been found innocent [I know] so he didn't do it, and he's got a chance to get his career back". It's true that they're also mostly morons, but I think it would be a mistake to assume that they're not conditioned by locker room chat and the easy availability of sex into really dangerous ways of thinking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Manchester United’s Mason Greenwood return plan included list of ‘hostile’ figures - The Athletic Quote According to sources with knowledge of United’s planning, who remain anonymous because they are not authorised to speak publicly, the club’s preparations for Greenwood’s return also included an assessment of the expected sentiment of external figures, listing individual football pundits, journalists and politicians and stating whether they would be for or against Greenwood’s reintegration. The planning divided these people into categories to the effect of “supportive”, “open-minded” or “hostile”. The club’s document listed a series of domestic abuse charities assumed to be “hostile”. grim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishywashy Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Rodders said: Manchester United’s Mason Greenwood return plan included list of ‘hostile’ figures - The Athletic grim. What the **** is wrong with people. DOMESTIC ABUSE CHARITIES AS HOSTILE??? Edited August 18, 2023 by wishywashy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Who on earth would be supportive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Genie said: Who on earth would be supportive? An unnamed Arsenal midfielder? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Davkaus said: An unnamed Arsenal midfielder? I was thinking from the listed journalists, politicians and pundits. Edit: Maybe Matt le Tissier could come up with a good conspiracy theory about it where Greenwood wasn’t even in the room when the recording happened. Edited August 18, 2023 by Genie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Genie said: I was thinking from the listed journalists, politicians and pundits. Ah, fair point. Half of the current government? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted August 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 18, 2023 It goes further than just that. They had a plan in place about how Ten Hag was answer questions about it as time passed, they even had it planned out how they would photograph the word removed in media of training etc. They had a whole stage-managed path to this all being forgotten about which went to the smallest facet of football engaging with media etc. **** disgusting and proof that the entire club is **** rotten. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 19 hours ago, Genie said: Who on earth would be supportive? I am waiting to hear the official voice of United in the medias opinion on this Gary Neville has an opinion on everything else 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, Zatman said: I am waiting to hear the official voice of United in the medias opinion on this Gary Neville has an opinion on everything else “I think he’s been punished enough” is my prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 22 hours ago, wishywashy said: What the **** is wrong with people. DOMESTIC ABUSE CHARITIES AS HOSTILE??? Reading that was utterly terrifying and disgusting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 22 hours ago, wishywashy said: What the **** is wrong with people. DOMESTIC ABUSE CHARITIES AS HOSTILE??? Its like something you would see on The Office or Mr Burns in The Simpsons Not from an actual real organisation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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