Frobisher Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I wish I had that schooling. I'm sure I would have detested it at the time, but what a solid basis for language learning it would have given me. I'm from a lost generation where grammar seemed; on the whole; to be ignored at school and I still struggle with it to this day. Comma splicing. Other than that; not a bad effort. Where?Fewer commas and where's the semi-colon love, eh? Under-used. Maybe I could have used dashes there (or a parenthetical aside), but definitely not semi-colons. There are no comma splices either; the necessary coordinating conjunctions are present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 12, 2013 Moderator Share Posted September 12, 2013 I wish I had that schooling. I'm sure I would have detested it at the time, but what a solid basis for language learning it would have given me. I'm from a lost generation where grammar seemed; on the whole; to be ignored at school and I still struggle with it to this day.Comma splicing. Other than that; not a bad effort.Where?Fewer commas and where's the semi-colon love, eh? Under-used.Maybe I could have used dashes there (or a parenthetical aside), but definitely not semi-colons. There are no comma splices either; the necessary coordinating conjunctions are present.My edit above removed 3 of your commas. As for the word 'and' immediately after a comma. Something to be avoided unless impossible to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobisher Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I wish I had that schooling. I'm sure I would have detested it at the time, but what a solid basis for language learning it would have given me. I'm from a lost generation where grammar seemed; on the whole; to be ignored at school and I still struggle with it to this day. Comma splicing. Other than that; not a bad effort.Where?Fewer commas and where's the semi-colon love, eh? Under-used. Maybe I could have used dashes there (or a parenthetical aside), but definitely not semi-colons. There are no comma splices either; the necessary coordinating conjunctions are present.My edit above removed 3 of your commas. As for the word 'and' immediately after a comma. Something to be avoided unless impossible to do so. Not true: "I still struggle with it to this day" is an independent clause. When you join two independent clauses with a conjunction a comma is used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 12, 2013 Moderator Share Posted September 12, 2013 Not true: "I still struggle with it to this day" is an independent clause. When you join two independent clauses with a conjunction a comma is used.Yeah true but not with the word 'and' aswell, plus given what went before, that probably should be its own sentence. Anyhoo, this is fast becoming the (now pruned ) grammar thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 12, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 12, 2013 I wish I had that schooling. I'm sure I would have detested it at the time, but what a solid basis for language learning it would have given me. I'm from a lost generation where grammar seemed; on the whole; to be ignored at school and I still struggle with it to this day. Comma splicing. Other than that; not a bad effort. Where? Fewer commas and where's the semi-colon love, eh? Under-used. Maybe I could have used dashes there (or a parenthetical aside), but definitely not semi-colons. There are no comma splices either; the necessary coordinating conjunctions are present. My edit above removed 3 of your commas. As for the word 'and' immediately after a comma. Something to be avoided unless impossible to do so. There is a place for the Oxford comma. These items are available in black and white, red and yellow, and blue and green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobisher Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Not true: "I still struggle with it to this day" is an independent clause. When you join two independent clauses with a conjunction a comma is used.Yeah true but not with the word 'and' aswell, plus given what went before, that probably should be its own sentence. Anyhoo, this is fast becoming the (now pruned ) grammar thread Haha very tedious for every other forum member. I will cease and desist :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted September 12, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 12, 2013 In many ways Latin is easier than any modern language. The grammar in particular is very structured and logical. As a kid, it annoyed me having to learn all the word endings. Here's second declension noun "dominus" (a master). (From which we get words like "dominate" and "dominant") If you can get your head around all that, you're laughing (Lat: ridens, from which we get ridicule, etc.) Posting from phone, so no link, but Google "Lingua Romana Perligata" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 12, 2013 Moderator Share Posted September 12, 2013 There is a place for the Oxford comma.As I said. A place, but a very very limited place. Under normal circumstances it is mis-used. People use it in conjunction with a comma when both are doing the exact same job making it redundant and wrong. It's just another of those little things that many people don't actually realise. Haha very tedious for every other forum member. I will cease and desist :-)Oh I dunno. I'm enjoying it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobisher Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) There is a place for the Oxford comma.As I said. A place, but a very very limited place. Under normal circumstances it is mis-used. People use it in conjunction with a comma when both are doing the exact same job making it redundant and wrong. It's just another of those little things that many people don't actually realise. Haha very tedious for every other forum member. I will cease and desist :-)Oh I dunno. I'm enjoying it But I didn't use an Oxford comma! I wasn't listing anything. Just Google "comma before and". Edit: I quoted the wrong post. Edited September 12, 2013 by stwefano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 12, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 12, 2013 If all this linguistics stuff pisses you off, well so it should. Hence, you can't complain about it in this thread! Bwahahahahahhhhhhh!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 12, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 12, 2013 In many ways Latin is easier than any modern language. The grammar in particular is very structured and logical. As a kid, it annoyed me having to learn all the word endings. Here's second declension noun "dominus" (a master). (From which we get words like "dominate" and "dominant") If you can get your head around all that, you're laughing (Lat: ridens, from which we get ridicule, etc.) Posting from phone, so no link, but Google "Lingua Romana Perligata" Madness. I expect the Vatican IT department uses it, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) CarewsEyebrowDesigner, on 12 Sept 2013 - 12:25 PM, said:CarewsEyebrowDesigner, on 12 Sept 2013 - 12:25 PM, said: Devil's advocate time. Language evolves. If people spell it 'ur' all the time, what difference does it make if it is understood in context? Ur a boob. Give me ur money. good heavens !! we might as well the go full retard and bastardise the language by replacing all the "S"'s with "Z"'s and dropping the U from words like Colour and flavour Edited September 12, 2013 by tonyh29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 There is a place for the Oxford comma. As Vampire Weekend so eloquently said, "Who gives a **** about an Oxford Comma" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_i1xk07o4g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Who gives a shit about Vampire Weekend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Who gives a shit about Vampire Weekend I like them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Who gives a shit about Vampire Weekend I like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) I like them too. **** y'all. On topic Sprinkles on cup cakes, ice cream etc. They just go everywhere. Edited September 12, 2013 by CarewsEyebrowDesigner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Colleagues being on a higher wage just because they started before me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Colleagues being on a higher wage just because they started before me. Colleague being on a higher wage despite the fact I out work him in every area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted September 12, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 12, 2013 In many ways Latin is easier than any modern language. The grammar in particular is very structured and logical. As a kid, it annoyed me having to learn all the word endings. Here's second declension noun "dominus" (a master). (From which we get words like "dominate" and "dominant") If you can get your head around all that, you're laughing (Lat: ridens, from which we get ridicule, etc.) Posting from phone, so no link, but Google "Lingua Romana Perligata" Madness. I expect the Vatican IT department uses it, though. Perl is probably the only programming language where you could have that (between the language, as programming languages go, being more flexible about its positional grammar; having the technical ability to do transformations that turn the language into something else (only the Lisp family gives you more power in that area); and having a user culture that likes doing things like that). use Lingua::Romana::Perligata; maximum inquementum tum biguttam egresso scribe. meo maximo vestibulo perlegamentum da. da duo tum maximum conscribementa meis listis. dum listis decapitamentum damentum nexto fac sic nextum tum novumversum scribe egresso. lista sic hoc recidementum nextum cis vannementa da listis. cis. is really just print STDOUT 'maximum:'; my $maxim = <STDIN>; my (@list) = (2..$maxim); while ($next = shift @list) { print STDOUT $next, "\n"; @list = grep {$_ % $next} @list; } Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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