StewieGriffin Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 28 minutes ago, villan-scott said: Any of those changing rooms pics about lately? WORV NOT GOR ENUFF PLAYAZ T' DAE A TEEM FOTO MAN, WHAVE GOT 10 OOT INJAHD YA NAH? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 They’ll chop Howe faster than you can say Khashoggi. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, Jareth said: They’ll chop Howe faster than you can say Khashoggi. It’s time for them to knock the financial doping into overdrive… and maybe the actual doping from what I’ve read. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Hilarious They gone backwards since last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, desensitized43 said: It’s time for them to knock the financial doping into overdrive… and maybe the actual doping from what I’ve read. What have you read? I'm forever looking for actual evidence of this alleged doping. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 The doping stuff is really just a running gag grounded in how Howe’s Bournemouth team suspiciously missed a drugs test many years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: What have you read? I'm forever looking for actual evidence of this alleged doping. Nothing official. Just chatter online about how the Saudi's run a quite sophisticated program, the mysterious turnaround in results with the same exact players, which magically occured the moment the takeover went through, the premier leagues very shoddy rules, particularly around asthma medication. It could all be conspiracy nonsense admittedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 21 minutes ago, desensitized43 said: Nothing official. Just chatter online about how the Saudi's run a quite sophisticated program, the mysterious turnaround in results with the same exact players, which magically occured the moment the takeover went through, the premier leagues very shoddy rules, particularly around asthma medication. It could all be conspiracy nonsense admittedly. Again, there is doping and then there is illegal doping WADA update their banned substance list once a year (I think in January) if a new product comes out in Feb then athletes are fine to use it for 11 months until the next list bans it BBC did a documentary on it years ago on how the yank Olympic team employs doctors just for that reason, they were making their athletes rattle with pills that weren't yet banned Maybe Newcastle and Liverpool are doing the same, maybe they're not, but you can almost guarantee that they employ someone to ensure that whatever it is they are doing complies with the rules - and I'd be surprised if villa don't do the same, there will be a club doctor who knows full well what players can and can't take The documentary also covered the British winter olympian who got stripped of his medal because the vics nose spray that he used in whatever country he was in contained a banned substance whereas the "same" product in the UK doesn't, someone at these PL clubs will be monitoring that kind of detail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oishiiniku_uk Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Kinda ironic that a club owned by a Petrostate hasn't considered the need for sustainable energy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Wilson didn't like getting some banter from the Spurszzz keeper, oh dearie me. We should keep in mind he can't hack a bit of verbal for the return fixture, always assuming he ain't on the treatment table again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 4 hours ago, desensitized43 said: Nothing official. Just chatter online about how the Saudi's run a quite sophisticated program, the mysterious turnaround in results with the same exact players, which magically occured the moment the takeover went through, the premier leagues very shoddy rules, particularly around asthma medication. It could all be conspiracy nonsense admittedly. The magical transformation of Aston Villa once they hired Emery and bought some good players. It must be the doping. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 People question Newcastle because their squad isn't that good, beyond Pope, Botman, Guimarães, and Isak, it's barely midtable quality, Livramento and Gordon are promising young players but weren't with them when they were doing well last season, also when you watch them play it doesn't look great as if to suggest the manager has some great tactical master plan, it kind of reminds me of how Moyes has West Ham playing, that is it's more about hard work and grinding out results. I dont't say they're dope fiends, I don't know anthing about that, I think their form has been more about momentum than anything else, eventually that momentum will end, Howe will be a victim of his own success and lose his job, and i'm not convinced will go go on to be a great success elsewhere, unless maybe he gets the England job, in which case he will probably be able to do a similar job to what Southgate has done and then there are differing opintions as to whether that can be classed as a success I think there has been an element of momentum to our good form, it plays a part in all good form to a degree, but more than Newcastle I thin our good form has been about good players, our squad is way better than Newcastles, I'm not even sure a single Newcastle player would get in our starting eleven, only a few would be of interest to other top six sides, and also we have a much better manager, as above watch what happens to Howe once he leaves the ambitous North East outfit, he will probably go on to be the next David Moyes or something. Of course with their resources they will likely eventually have a genuine top quality squad and top manager but they haven't got that now and as such have been over achieving, and yes to a greater extent than we have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 20 minutes ago, useless said: People question Newcastle because their squad isn't that good, beyond Pope, Botman, Guimarães, and Isak, it's barely midtable quality, Livramento and Gordon are promising young players but weren't with them when they were doing well last season, also when you watch them play it doesn't look great as if to suggest the manager has some great tactical master plan, it kind of reminds me of how Moyes has West Ham playing, that is it's more about hard work and grinding out results. I dont't say they're dope fiends, I don't know anthing about that, I think their form has been more about momentum than anything else, eventually that momentum will end, Howe will be a victim of his own success and lose his job, and i'm not convinced will go go on to be a great success elsewhere, unless maybe he gets the England job, in which case he will probably be able to do a similar job to what Southgate has done and then there are differing opintions as to whether that can be classed as a success I think there has been an element of momentum to our good form, it plays a part in all good form to a degree, but more than Newcastle I thin our good form has been about good players, our squad is way better than Newcastles, I'm not even sure a single Newcastle player would get in our starting eleven, only a few would be of interest to other top six sides, and also we have a much better manager, as above watch what happens to Howe once he leaves the ambitous North East outfit, he will probably go on to be the next David Moyes or something. Of course with their resources they will likely eventually have a genuine top quality squad and top manager but they haven't got that now and as such have been over achieving, and yes to a greater extent than we have You’d have Newcastle fans saying the same thing about Villa players. They’ve got players who buy entirely into what Howe wants and some players (Joelinton in particular) who absolutely embody their style of play. They’re a horrible team to play against; very aggressive, very tenacious and with plenty of pace up front. You could take players who do well for us, and they’d completely struggle in Newcastle’s system (and vice-versa) which is why the “no players would get into our side” stuff falls down so often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post andym Posted December 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, rjw63 said: Wilson didn't like getting some banter from the Spurszzz keeper, oh dearie me. We should keep in mind he can't hack a bit of verbal for the return fixture, always assuming he ain't on the treatment table again 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 They have had a number of injuries and struggled with playing in the champions league and being competitive in the Premier League. The last two games they hsve looked knackered. No.energy in the team at all. Also the big signing Tonali. Due diligence couldn't have been done there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Crying on social media because some goalkeeper made a face at you. **** me that's some cringe. That is wake up your bed 25 years later reliving that moment again cringe. Deary me. I don't think I've ever been so embarrassed for someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Tbh its not the recruitment the injuries have decimated them. I think even we would struggle with that volume of injuries I think full strength they are a decent team Have to say as much as im nit a fan of them their recruitment style is a lot better than chelseas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 If we get the champions league people could be saying the same things about us next season. Club take note... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oishiiniku_uk Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Tbh its not the recruitment the injuries have decimated them. I think even we would struggle with that volume of injuries I think full strength they are a decent team Have to say as much as im nit a fan of them their recruitment style is a lot better than chelseas Their injury list has to at least partially be down to their style of play/training regime. I don't buy that this many injuries is purely down to 'bad luck'. Too much overlap with how Leeds were in 20/21 vs 21/22. As for the strength of their squad, I honestly think that Howe got a lot of the players performing significantly above their level last season (due to maximizing energy levels and physicality) and now they're reverting to their normal standards a bit. I'd say that their first 11 is maybe top six? But as a whole the squad is 8-9th in terms of overall quality, I think (I'd put them in a similar bracket with Brighton and West Ham). Their signings make more sense than Chelsea's but that club is a basket-case and no-one (besides Cole Palmer) is performing well at the moment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Gonna have a new manager soon I reckon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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