PaulC Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) Yes technically poor but has pace to burn and good at freekicks. Not sure why he hasn't been given a look-at this season when you consider how poor Richardson and Nzog have been Edited December 15, 2014 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 He can't do the most basic things though. He cannot control a football and he cannot pass a football. I couldn't believe how laughably bad he was last season at times. This ain't the Charles N'Zogbia or Andreas Wiemann thread mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 He can't do the most basic things though. He cannot control a football and he cannot pass a football. I couldn't believe how laughably bad he was last season at times. This ain't the Charles N'Zogbia or Andreas Wiemann thread mate. I don't think 'not getting the basics right' is limited to Bacuna. I think it is about confidence, our tactics and the overall way we play. He deserves a chance, he did more in a handful of games than most of our players have done in 4 seasons. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P.A Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Have people confused Bacuna with Sylla? Bacuna is pretty good. Better then N'Zogbia on current form, without a doubt. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danwichmann Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I can't understand why he hasn't featured more this season. Scored 5 goals las season which looks beyond most of our strikers at times and certainly no other midfielder isn't going to manage that. Will link midfield and attack better than anyone else we have available, and better on the wing than Richardson or N'Zogbia. What has he got to do to get a look in? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulfromsutton Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 He will play at the weekend with so many out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 His energy, work rate and freekicks would be useful right now. Still don't understand why we don't give him a chance playing behind Benteke - pretty sure he did well when we played him as an advanced midfielder last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted December 16, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2014 I don't really rate him to be honest. Can't fault his application, but I just don't think he's really Premier League standard. Happy to be proved wrong if he plays this weekend, though, not exactly the easiest of games to come back into the first 11! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P.A Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 ^ Yet without his contributions last season we probably would've been relegated. I think he definitely offers more to the team then N'Zogbia and Richardson do. Hopefully he takes his chance soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted December 16, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2014 ^ Yet without his contributions last season we probably would've been relegated. I think he definitely offers more to the team then N'Zogbia and Richardson do. Hopefully he takes his chance soon I think us being relegated without him is a bit of a stretch to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P.A Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) ^ Yet without his contributions last season we probably would've been relegated. I think he definitely offers more to the team then N'Zogbia and Richardson do. Hopefully he takes his chance soon I think us being relegated without him is a bit of a stretch to be honest. Just had a look at the stats, you may be right. If he didn't score in that City game and in the game vs WBA, both game would've been draws instead of wins, and we would've finish 4 points worse, on 34 points - only one point above the relegation zone. My bad. Edited December 16, 2014 by Jay.P.A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted December 16, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) ^ Yet without his contributions last season we probably would've been relegated. I think he definitely offers more to the team then N'Zogbia and Richardson do. Hopefully he takes his chance soon I think us being relegated without him is a bit of a stretch to be honest. Just had a look at the stats, you may be right. If he didn't score in that City game and in the game vs WBA, both game would've been draws instead of wins, and we would've finish 4 points worse, on 34 points - only one point above the relegation zone. My bad. Well, you've also got the fact if he didn't play all the games he did, someone else would have, and who knows if they would have done better or worse. Some players have a huge influence on the team, Benteke and Guzan probably being the main two, without them we probably would have been relegated (imo), but Bacuna wasn't the difference. Edited December 16, 2014 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 He certainly poses an attacking threat, so he can feel unlucky not to have had more game time this season. I think a lot of that is due to Hutton's good form, with him bombing forward it doesn't make as much sense to bring Bacuna on as an attacking RB/RWB, which is what he often was last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 But he is two-footed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 ^ Yet without his contributions last season we probably would've been relegated. I think he definitely offers more to the team then N'Zogbia and Richardson do. Hopefully he takes his chance soon I think us being relegated without him is a bit of a stretch to be honest. Just had a look at the stats, you may be right. If he didn't score in that City game and in the game vs WBA, both game would've been draws instead of wins, and we would've finish 4 points worse, on 34 points - only one point above the relegation zone. My bad. He certainly won us two points in the Cardiff game as that was sleeping walking to a 0-0 before his free kick from nowhere. Same with Man. City, we were losing 2-1 before the great free kick and we scored right after that so he did win us some points last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 16, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2014 He can score. We need goals. All I need to know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P.A Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 He's a bigger goal threat then N'Zogbia, that's for sure. Plus him and Hutton could form a good partnership on that right hand side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I think he's been playing further forward for the U21 team, I just want him to be given a chance, he deserves it after his efforts last season. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danwichmann Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I don't really rate him to be honest. Can't fault his application, but I just don't think he's really Premier League standard. Happy to be proved wrong if he plays this weekend, though, not exactly the easiest of games to come back into the first 11! I get that some people don't rate him, while I don't agree it's a reasonable point of view. But surely the question is if he would offer more than CNZ, Richardson or Wienmamn, and surely even his biggest doubters would have to say yes at times to that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 He's not great, but based on the last 3 weeks, he's got to be better than CNZ. For a Dutch player, his technique is pretty awful (apart form FK's..). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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