paulfromsutton

A possibility of signing players is exciting. A possibility of signing players in positions we desperately need is doubly exciting

Nah he has always said that

This season and last. I mentioned the previous managers due to the three reasons of costs. Everything I said was true

How much did we spend in the summer? Genuine question, I have no idea... 6-7m

On the lowton link I wouldn't mind if he left for a few million but it does just leave us with a midfielder as backup

For a wide forward his goal/assist record isn't impressive

As Gil and Sinclair play on opposite sides of the field they may both happen

I'd be happy with Sinclair and dembele

Respectfully your wrong They were of similar sizes to what we were under MON. They also had either location or infrastructure going for them depending on which club you want to talk about. In a world of FFP where you can't spend anything you like now you also can't have someone come in throw 500m at it and do the same thing as several clubs have found out in the first round of sanctions.

I agree with that to a large extent but as of now we don't need to spread what funds we do have around that will be a choice of the manager so we could just bring in one or two a season and pay more

We can't afford it we break even with what we do now. Best option in future is to buy players under 25 with potential and hope they sell for more to build aka the Spurs model over the years.

Drugs are just bad.....mmmmkay.I was thinking the same thingExplain why this is a drug induced comment? Which players do you think the mighty villa will attract playing shit football and paying relatively low wages? Or did u forget that vlaar delph & benteke are on their way out. Next season expect to lose okore aswell. Even cleverly who most of the supporters don't want doesn't actually want to sign for villa 1. Selling Benteke for 45m isn't going to happen also finding buyers willing to pick up gabby and weimann in the same window isn't going to happen this isn't football manager. 2. Those players combined don't earn over 200k a week so the wage bill would be going up a fair chunk - there are other costs than transfer fees such as wages and sign on bonus'. As Sinclair and dembele is a combined 10m in fees that suggests you think it is a good idea to spend 40m on someone out of contract in 6 months, a player who has played in the premier league for 5 months after playing all his career I. The lower league and he ain't 20 and a Spurs bench warmer. Just no and that isn't even debating if they are the right players to sign or not. Seeing as your so clued up please tell us what's goin to happen? Who is going to be sold & who are we bringing in as you think the players I suggested ain't good enough? Not being rude just curious I replied to your comment with common sense not who was going to be signed

Drugs are just bad.....mmmmkay. I was thinking the same thingExplain why this is a drug induced comment? Which players do you think the mighty villa will attract playing shit football and paying relatively low wages? Or did u forget that vlaar delph & benteke are on their way out. Next season expect to lose okore aswell. Even cleverly who most of the supporters don't want doesn't actually want to sign for villa 1. Selling Benteke for 45m isn't going to happen also finding buyers willing to pick up gabby and weimann in the same window isn't going to happen this isn't football manager. 2. Those players combined don't earn over 200k a week so the wage bill would be going up a fair chunk - there are other costs than transfer fees such as wages and sign on bonus'. As Sinclair and dembele is a combined 10m in fees that suggests you think it is a good idea to spend 40m on someone out of contract in 6 months, a player who has played in the premier league for 5 months after playing all his career I. The lower league and he ain't 20 and a Spurs bench warmer. Just no and that isn't even debating if they are the right players to sign or not.

I wouldn't say they are miles apart they just play in vastly different teams

I really don't get all this discussion. If Lerner wanted to fund a transfer spending spree - he could - The fact that he doesn't is the problem - not FFP, Amortisation, capitalisation, how much profit we make - Lerner doesn't want to fund it. Agree totally. It was like when fans were saying he had no money, when he still had billions sitting around and he just sold the Browns for another cheeky Billion. He only doesn't want to fund it because he doesn't get enough back. He's making a loss constantly. One of the reasons Mr Fox was brought in, in order to change that, I assume. We don't make losses anymore with our spending it's roughly break even maybe even a couple of million in the black but it wasn't previously so to comply with FFP if we finished in a Europa spot we would still need to have less losses over the past 3 years to not be fined. That is the explanation.

Yea that's right I must have had a brain fart. So 8m over 4 years loss of 2m a year correct? What happens then though that's the bit that confuses me Yeah wages are just general outgoings, the transfer fee is the weird one Well I was thinking (accountants it isn't every day someone thinks your interesting so jump on this) if their transfer fee is counted as a loss of 2 million a year for 4 years for a player brought for 8 million on a 4 year deal then I see a few scenarios which I can't make sense of. 1. Does that mean if they sign a contract for a further 4 years after 2 years their value drops on the books by 1 million a year because 4 million has already gone or does it continue by the original amount? 2. Regardless of if the above is correct does that mean when the contract runs out and they sign a new one if we sell him it is just counted as pure profit? So the guzan example if we sold him for 10m It's really important for this to be known so we know what to expect money wise on transfers as in what's affordable.

Yea that's right I must have had a brain fart. So 8m over 4 years loss of 2m a year correct? What happens then though that's the bit that confuses me

As of Sunday there was no offers for Delph. I know that to be a fact.

Quite. If, and I do say if, we get anyone this window it won't be a striker in my opinion it will be a wide player and most likely on loan. We could do with replacements for Gabby and Wiemann, if we are adopting this new possesion style football then they are virtually useless. They are good counter attack type players but asking them to make clever runs in and around the box when when we are having possesion is pointless, they are not intelligent enough to play that way and both lack any real technical abilty I agree, the problem as always is money. Wasn't it quoted (from somewhere) last summer that Randy would back Lambert financially in January? Cheap platitudes though aren't they really - he might chuck £10m at us best case scenario. Its hardly the £50m this teams needs to make it even vaguely competitive though is it? I don't think we're £50million away, we're a couple of players short from being a really good side (provided we're set up right), what needs addressing is the breakdown between midfield and attack. Trouble is a lot of the players Paul has brought in he has taken a gamble on because largely with the money he had that's what he had to do. Some have worked out some havent. The players we need now to make a difference cant really be gambles they have to work and so that will cost both in terms of fees and wages , not 50M maybe but lets say it's two 9 or 10M players thats 20M. They'll want 3 year contracts I guess as a minimum on around 60K pw so there's another 9M each in basic wages before bonuses and signing on fees so for two qualityish players that we need you are talking 40M starter. Fortunately you don't need to pay all the wages and bonuses up front... Well with amortisation you kind of do and that counts under FFP regs

Drugs are just bad.....mmmmkay. I was thinking the same thing

Quite. If, and I do say if, we get anyone this window it won't be a striker in my opinion it will be a wide player and most likely on loan.We could do with replacements for Gabby and Wiemann, if we are adopting this new possesion style football then they are virtually useless. They are good counter attack type players but asking them to make clever runs in and around the box when when we are having possesion is pointless, they are not intelligent enough to play that way and both lack any real technical abilty I agree, the problem as always is money. Wasn't it quoted (from somewhere) last summer that Randy would back Lambert financially in January? Cheap platitudes though aren't they really - he might chuck £10m at us best case scenario. Meaning less in reality if as I fear we end up chucking £8m at Manyoo for Cleverly. Its hardly the £50m this teams needs to make it even vaguely competitive though is it? 10m sounds about right to my calculations last summer. 50m is never going to happen we live in a world of FFP and you need to deal with that when it comes to your expectations

I agree 2 million would be a piss take

Gomis linked today. Bit odd a decent player with a 1 in 3 record in France but he signed for Swansea in the summer on a free, he's a centre forward and 29. Hardly what you would think is our remit to be signed unless he came cheap! I wouldn't be adverse to it if the money is right with kozak out for so much longer than expected. But we really need wide forwards and a midfielder who can create and get in the box

This team is poor because of its midfield and wide forward set up even if you changed 1 midfielder for a box to box player and both wide forwards we would be easily a top half team

It isn't 2 or three million if they throw in a player like dembele