CI Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 What about the dignity of the people on the ground dead or dying. Imagine one of their last moments is to look up and see someone taking a photo of them ? Difficult one, with the intro of twitter etc I think it needs a bit of a rethink from the photographers viewpoint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 16, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted April 16, 2013 But this kind of stuff has been around long long before Twitter was here. It's more quickly circulated now, but stuff like war photography has been delivering shocking images for decades. It's nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted April 16, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted April 16, 2013 (edited) Interview wih the guy who shot the most-used videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YExuJ25qjE Edited April 16, 2013 by leviramsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted April 16, 2013 Moderator Share Posted April 16, 2013 It's how you look at it though. Some people's instant reaction is to go and help victims. In which case standing taking photographs seems a bit cowardly.But on the other hand, a hell of a lot more people's reactions are to run for the hills, in which case staying and photographing what's happening seems admirable. I don't have a problem with it. As I said, if they were the only people who could help and they're taking photos then I'd be bothered by it.If the victims are being helped by enough people then there is also a legitimate need to document what is going on. But only in the scenario where the people are being helped. So, like you, I don't have a problem with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Richard Posted April 16, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2013 What about the dignity of the people on the ground dead or dying. Imagine one of their last moments is to look up and see someone taking a photo of them ? Difficult one, with the intro of twitter etc I think it needs a bit of a rethink from the photographers viewpoint Yet in the thread about Korea you said "It would make great TV if the US either just bomb the **** or go in on a ground offensive. I would like to see this happen." 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted April 16, 2013 Moderator Share Posted April 16, 2013 Ooh, pwned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted April 16, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted April 16, 2013 What about the dignity of the people on the ground dead or dying. Imagine one of their last moments is to look up and see someone taking a photo of them ? Difficult one, with the intro of twitter etc I think it needs a bit of a rethink from the photographers viewpoint Yet in the thread about Korea you said "It would make great TV if the US either just bomb the **** or go in on a ground offensive. I would like to see this happen." :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Sorry yeah, but that was meant regarding taking out a dangerous regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Sorry yeah, but that was meant regarding taking out a dangerous regime. But which would still more than likely involve innocent people being killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted April 16, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted April 16, 2013 But this kind of stuff has been around long long before Twitter was here. It's more quickly circulated now, but stuff like war photography has been delivering shocking images for decades. It's nothing new. Boston, 1976 Photo: Stanley Forman, Boston Herald It's quitting time on a brutally hot day in July when Boston Herald American photographer Stanley Forman hears a report of a fire in Boston’s Back Bay. He follows screaming fire trucks to a six-story apartment house in flames. Forman remembers "a roaring, roaring inferno... heavy smoke. Heavy fire. It was like a firestorm." Forman runs to the back of the building. "Then I spotted them. A woman, a child and they re standing there on the fire escape, 10 feet from the fire itself. And they're looking for help." As Forman watches, a firefighter climbs down from the roof. He pulls them away from the flames, shielding them with his heavy rubber coat. Seeking a better vantage point, Forman climbs onto a ladder truck. "Everything was fine," says Forman. "I was just shooting a routine rescue. Switching lenses, switching cameras." A ladder rises slowly toward the fire escape. The firefighter reaches out to grab the ladder.... "All of a sudden, boom! It just crashes." As Forman watches, the fire escape rips away from the building. The woman is falling, the child is falling, metal is flying... "Everything is falling and I'm thinking. Just keep shooting.' And I'm shooting and shooting. Then a bell went off in my head. I didn’t want to see them hit." Forman turns away. When he turns back, he discovers the 19-year-old woman is dead. Her 3-year-old niece miraculous survives. And, closer to home, for me, another Back Bay fire, this one 17 June, 1972: My dad almost certainly is the tall fellow in one of the front rows, arms akimbo, and the two young men (I think) off the left, foreground, could well be two of my cousins. My dad took them to a Red Sox game that afternoon, they were walking back down Comm Ave to his then-apartment to wait for my uncle to pick them up (this is 10 years before I was born), when they see that the Hotel Vendome, in the process of being converted to condos, is on fire with firefighters starting to arrive. So they stopped to watch for a few minutes before moving on. A few minutes later, one of the walls of the hotel collapses onto the street, crushing a fire truck and killing nine firefighters. Of course, my dad ended up buying one of the condos when the conversion was complete. I was conceived there (or possibly in Leeds) and lived there till I was a couple of months old. The Marathon finish line is about two blocks down the side street (Dartmouth) to the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 16, 2013 Moderator Share Posted April 16, 2013 I would imagine plenty of the photos taken will be examined forensically by the Feds and as such might prove very useful over the coming days / weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted April 16, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted April 16, 2013 I would imagine plenty of the photos taken will be examined forensically by the Feds and as such might prove very useful over the coming days / weeksThe local TV stations between them have about a week's worth of footage from a ton of angles leading up to it. Add in the fans with cameraphones and so forth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted April 16, 2013 Moderator Share Posted April 16, 2013 I would imagine plenty of the photos taken will be examined forensically by the Feds and as such might prove very useful over the coming days / weeks Was just going to say exactly that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 The police have actually requested now that all unpublished photos should be handed over. As pointed out above they may hold key bits of evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted April 16, 2013 Moderator Share Posted April 16, 2013 Someone made the meme "Brace Yourselves, Westboro Baptist Church is coming". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 e-bay is being flooded with marathon memorabilia, apparently...people always thinking about making a quick buck, no matter the circumstances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Fox contributes to the discussion: 'Muslims are evil. Let’s kill them all': Fox News pundit Erik Rush provokes furious reaction with Twitter rant after Boston Marathon bombs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Amusingly, if someone tweeted that Fox News pundits are evil, and we should kill them all, I can imagine very few people would disagree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Guy who trades on controversy says something controversial shocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 (edited) Amusingly, if someone tweeted that Fox News pundits are evil, and we should kill them all, I can imagine very few people would disagree. On VT? No, probably not, but I suspect most other people would disagree with that kind of statement. Not defending this guy's tweets by the way. They were disgusting. Edited April 16, 2013 by Mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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