TwirlyDoors Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Please explain the Lambert right way Does that include ostracising your clubs most expensive assets Even if they are prima dona's you come up with a plan of how to get the best of them in a bad situation Sending paid professionals to train with the your/reserve teams Lamberts negative style is obvious, he seems like a bully, and is backed into a corner Having the most uninspiring persona in interviews Not being honest and leaving, when you are blatantly over your head. I think "Lamberts right way" is the same as most other clubs without a sugar daddy, buy the players and pay the wages you can afford to. As for ostracising the expensive players, I am definately not ITK, I don't know what is happening behind the scenes. I generally believe there are reasons managers don't play certain players, whether they are financial, tactical or personality issues, I think if a manager believes a player could genuinly make a difference, they will play them. After all Lamberts job and the teams success is on the line. Apart from Darren Bent, it doesn't seem that there has been any interest from other clubs in the likes of Warnock, Hutton, Ireland etc. As for certain players being sent to train with the reserves, perhaps he believes they are a negative influence on the first team squad at a time when confidence is fragile enough. The "prima donnas" in the team, you can have all the plans but if a player is not interested or commited it won't work. As I say, I don't know what is going on internally, but I guess there are reasons for the players being pushed out. Paul Lamberts style in interviews has generally been similar to the way it is now, he stonewalls and gives bland answers to questions, thats is what winds some of the press up, the opposite to someone like Harry Redknapp, which maybe why he gets a easier ride from some sections of the media. At the end of the day, I feel we will be better sticking with him and seeing the tough times through, hopefully successfully, than sacking him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 http://tinyurl.com/arf3u9d Still angry about yesterday and not thinking as clearly on the situation as I like but Andy Gray sums it up pretty well. Lambert doesn't know what he is doing. I think the comment from Stephen Flynn to that article sums it up for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Why because he is a cock like VillaCas said or because it's totally untrue or because it's too close too the truth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquaddieVilla Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 "It is believed Lambert would still stay in charge even if Villa drop down to the Championship with Lerner believing he would be the right man to take them back up after his double promotion exploits at Norwich" From the independent Shit the bed.............how is that the answer, purposely going for relegation, Lerner please sell to the next big, deep pocketed Arab u meet. Yanks know your limits stick to pissy NFL, NHL, NBA and oh MLS, have i forgotten one oh yeh, Randy FOASITUSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I think the comment from Stephen Flynn to that article sums it up for me I think the comment from Stephen Flynn is deeply, deeply stupid and illiterate, but, hey, this is a message board where people have different opinions. I do agree with Andy Gray when he asks what on earth was Lambert doing not starting with Benteke and Weimann? We needed goals and that's who's been getting them. I've nearly given up hoping he can become even a competent manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Paul Faulkner has to go IMO. 34 year old man acting as our Chief Executive and has no plan. He has been at the helm for 3 of the worst years as a Villa fan. One mess after another. Be under no illusions, he is the boy who is in charge and filling RL with crap. You better believe it. Andy Gray can **** off - the opinion of a man who turned down the chance of being a manager to be a tv pundit shows what confidence he has in his own ability Couldn't agree more. Always talked a good game and said what should have been done but also shit himself when Everton came calling in 1996 aswell. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Andy Gray can **** off - the opinion of a man who turned down the chance of being a manager to be a tv pundit shows what confidence he has in his own ability Which part of this are you disagreeing with? Andy Gray has blasted Paul Lambert’s tactics and insists Aston Villa can’t hide behind excuses of youth and inexperience. Villa crashed out of the Capital One Cup on Tuesday night in a 4-3 aggregate defeat by League Two Bradford in the semi-final. And Gray, who won the League Cup with the Midlands giants in 1977, was furious at what he saw from his former club. He said: “It was a huge disappointment for every Villa fan. I was surprised at Villa’s selection, they should have mirrored Bradford’s formation. “They made a mistake by not playing Andreas Weimann, a guy who has scored seven goals in his last nine games. That surprised me from Paul [Lambert]. He obviously had his reasons, but I didn’t get that. He should have stuck Weimann up front alongside Christian Benteke. He’s full of confidence as he showed when he came on. “That was a mistake I wouldn’t have made, I don’t think. But Lambert picks the team and decided not to go with it. I would have done, you’ve got to believe you’ve got better players than a League Two side, so what’s wrong with pairing them right across the pitch and saying , ‘we’ll mirror you because we’ve got better players than you’. The last half hour especially really, really, really disappointed me. I don’t know what Paul [Lambert] was trying to do— Andy Gray “The last half hour especially really, really, really disappointed me. I don’t know what Paul was trying to do. There was an unbelievable lack of width. Every time they got the ball it was just whacked up into the box and there were four of five players within seven or eight yards square around the edge of the box. “It was just hit and hope football and I couldn’t catch my breath at what I was seeing. “ Gray also dismisses the argument that Villa’s lack of experience was a decisive factor in the two-legged tie. “Don’t let anyone got on again about age,” he added. “There was nothing in the ages of these teams to separate them. “The Villa side - you talk about them not being experienced - but look at Given, Vlaar, Clark, who has played more 50 Premier League games, Bannan, a Scottish international, N’Zogbia, hundreds of Premier League games, Ireland, hundreds of Premier League games, Agbonlahor, hundreds of Premier League games, Benteke, an international footballer. “Don’t give me that this is an inexperienced and young side, and that’s cost them. It wasn’t.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 So the defence seems to be there's no one else. And everything will be good in the future based on nothing but hope. Shows what a shit job he's doing when that's the core of his biggest fans defence of him. But thats the long and short of it though. Were Moyes to quit everton, or a quality manager suddenley be on the market - I am sure many more would say sack Lambert and bring in XXXX - but there isn't a candidate to unite behind.......unless you know of one ? Sacking Lambert and bringing in RDM - I am sure you agree big John, wouldn't be a good move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquaddieVilla Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I think "Lamberts right way" is the same as most other clubs without a sugar daddy, buy the players and pay the wages you can afford to. As for ostracising the expensive players, I am definately not ITK, I don't know what is happening behind the scenes. I generally believe there are reasons managers don't play certain players, whether they are financial, tactical or personality issues, I think if a manager believes a player could genuinly make a difference, they will play them. After all Lamberts job and the teams success is on the line. Apart from Darren Bent, it doesn't seem that there has been any interest from other clubs in the likes of Warnock, Hutton, Ireland etc. As for certain players being sent to train with the reserves, perhaps he believes they are a negative influence on the first team squad at a time when confidence is fragile enough. The "prima donnas" in the team, you can have all the plans but if a player is not interested or commited it won't work. As I say, I don't know what is going on internally, but I guess there are reasons for the players being pushed out. Paul Lamberts style in interviews has generally been similar to the way it is now, he stonewalls and gives bland answers to questions, thats is what winds some of the press up, the opposite to someone like Harry Redknapp, which maybe why he gets a easier ride from some sections of the media. At the end of the day, I feel we will be better sticking with him and seeing the tough times through, hopefully successfully, than sacking him. Some good points there, but , if you have to face PL and his moody tendencies on a daily basis, do you think that would encourage you play to your maximum level. From a psychological perspective he is emitting negative vibes that the whole club can feel. He has to go, IMO. Cant stand to see his miserable mug again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo69 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Everything Andy Gray is said is true but it doesn’t take ex footballer and a pundit to say what should have been done. Its bloody common sense!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Which part of this are you disagreeing with? That is spot on actually.. not sure what people find wrong with he said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 (edited) I am baffled as to why Lambert is still getting so much support. Just how bad do things have to get before that support is withdrawn? Yes we desperately need stability but it's becoming painfully clear now that he is an incredibly shit manager and certainly not the one to take us forward. Houllier and McLeish got crucified on here for less than this. Edited January 23, 2013 by Mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 There were a few people turning last night. It wont be long now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 (edited) Agree with this all over. I too gave up my season ticket this year and haven't attended a single game. I won't blab too much though otherwise I might get told I'm not allowed to have an opinion. You are not allowed to have an opinion...... I doubt my son and I will renew at the end of this season. He is totally fed up with all things Villa so I subjected a mate to last nights shambles instead. As for me I just don't enjoy it anymore, love the club but hate pretty much everything that is happening there. Edited January 23, 2013 by Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 There were a few people turning last night. It wont be long now. Hmmm.....that I very much doubt that based on what the BBC are saying. Lambert might not be right for us but I have yet to see any poster suggest a sensible and gettable alternative given our currrent predicament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo69 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I am baffled as to why Lambert is still getting so much support. Just how bad do things have to get before that support is withdrawn? Yes we desperately need stability but it's becoming painfully clear now that he is an incredibly shit manager and certainly not the one to take us forward. Houllier and McLeish got crucified on here for less than this. Because we know he isn't going to get sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Hmmm.....that I very much doubt that based on what the BBC are saying. Lambert might not be right for us but I have yet to see any poster suggest a sensible and gettable alternative given our currrent predicament. No i'm talking about, it wont be long before alot more fans start getting on his back. Pretty sure he wont be sacked this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Don't worry we will pick ourselves up and go again What are the odds on Lowry scoring the weekend from a corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo69 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Alternatives - Mark Hughes and Adkins are available. Could they keep us up. Who knows? Will we stay up under Lambert? Very unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 He wont be sacked, get over it and put all efforts in to backing the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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