HanoiVillan Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 34 minutes ago, Rds1983 said: We're 5 points off Liverpool in 1st who have an 11 goal better goal difference than us. Realistically it will be very hard to make that up seeing as though they and Arsenal are both averaging nearly 2.2 points per game. City are being included as they have 2 games in hand and realistically are likely to be at least 4 points (if not 6) above us once they've caught up. To win the league we would need to out perform all 3 of these clubs over the next 15 games and this was our first 'challenge' in over a decade. I think it's fair for the media to not involve us when talking about the title race. I've not seen Spurs fans annoyed that the media isn't saying they could win it. Right, we would need to do two wins better than a side that hasn't lost a single game in which they've kept 11 men on the pitch. And that isn't even Man City! We would need to win pretty much every remaining game in the season, I think it's not unreasonable for the media to consider that so unlikely to happen it's not worth analysing too deeply. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 What they wish they could get away with is: Premier League Title Race! 1. Liverpool 2. Arsenal 3. Man City 5. Tottenham 6: Man United 11. Chelsea 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted February 5 VT Supporter Share Posted February 5 31 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Right, we would need to do two wins better than a side that hasn't lost a single game in which they've kept 11 men on the pitch. And that isn't even Man City! We would need to win pretty much every remaining game in the season, I think it's not unreasonable for the media to consider that so unlikely to happen it's not worth analysing too deeply. It's worse than that. It'd be incredibly difficult and impressive to catch Liverpool, but we'd also need Arsenal and City to drop points. We're not in a title challenge after our recent form. We're now in a fight for top 4. 38 minutes ago, Zatman said: If City didn't have 2 games in hand they would still be included Possibly, but they have the recent history (of not only regularly winning the league but also being a lot better in the later stages of the season) for the media to fall back upon. The last time we even finished in the top 4 was 1996 which is nearly 30 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrinityRoadSteps Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 32 minutes ago, Davkaus said: What they wish they could get away with is: Premier League Title Race! 1. Liverpool 2. Arsenal 3. Man City 5. Tottenham 6: Man United 11. Chelsea After the game yesterday BT Sport tweeted that Arsenal were unbeaten against the "Big 6" this season. Cue a lot of replies saying but not the "Top 6" though eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 40 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Right, we would need to do two wins better than a side that hasn't lost a single game in which they've kept 11 men on the pitch. And that isn't even Man City! We would need to win pretty much every remaining game in the season, I think it's not unreasonable for the media to consider that so unlikely to happen it's not worth analysing too deeply. Thats fair enough but this is all hypothetical. Media is supposed to deal with facts and even if its a pipedream we are still currently in the title race considering we have to play all 3 teams above us If Man United or Chelsea were in our position they would not get same treatment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Thats fair enough but this is all hypothetical. Media is supposed to deal with facts and even if its a pipedream we are still currently in the title race considering we have to play all 3 teams above us If Man United or Chelsea were in our position they would not get same treatment Agreed - but they'll have been tipped to finish higher than us by many pundits this season. A few games ago, we were absolutely being included in the conversation. There was a lot of coverage of Aston Villa being in the title race and Emery being asked about a title challenge etc. However, our form over the last 5 games is worse than any other side in the top 6. We've shifted away from the likely title race, even if we're still in the bigger picture. I'd fancy Spurs to be more likely to challenge for the title than us, and they're not being spoken about either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 5 VT Supporter Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Zatman said: If City didn't have 2 games in hand they would still be included I mean come on, this is completely reasonable. It's Man City People aren't really annoyed by this are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bobzy Posted February 5 Popular Post Share Posted February 5 2 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I mean come on, this is completely reasonable. It's Man City People aren't really annoyed by this are they? I find our fanbase (general) is becoming increasingly annoying regarding the whole "media" thing. They don't hate us! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 16 minutes ago, bobzy said: I find our fanbase (general) is becoming increasingly annoying regarding the whole "media" thing. They don't hate us! you know its not just our fanbase, nearly everz team not in the scum 6 are not happy with the media respect they get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 minute ago, Zatman said: you know its not just our fanbase, nearly everz team not in the scum 6 are not happy with the media respect they get I don't follow other teams so I wouldn't have a clue about them. Just Aston Villa - and we're heading that way so, so quickly. Need to get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 5 VT Supporter Share Posted February 5 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: you know its not just our fanbase, nearly everz team not in the scum 6 are not happy with the media respect they get That's kind of the point really though isn't it? Big club bias is a thing. It's not an agenda against Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Nice to see Odegarrd have a pop back at Sky clearings in the woods Carragher and Neville over Arsenal celebrations. Both be loving it if was Liverpool or United Interesting interview other day from Le Tissier about how Sky sacked him and they told him some of it was over his tweets and Sky said nothing when he brought up Carragher spitting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: Nice to see Odegarrd have a pop back at Sky clearings in the woods Carragher and Neville over Arsenal celebrations. Both be loving it if was Liverpool or United Interesting interview other day from Le Tissier about how Sky sacked him and they told him some of it was over his tweets and Sky said nothing when he brought up Carragher spitting. Sky should never have brought Carragher back after what he did. I still can’t believe they did and they carry on like nothing happened. They sacked Gray and Keys for less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy7211 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: Nice to see Odegarrd have a pop back at Sky clearings in the woods Carragher and Neville over Arsenal celebrations. Both be loving it if was Liverpool or United Interesting interview other day from Le Tissier about how Sky sacked him and they told him some of it was over his tweets and Sky said nothing when he brought up Carragher spitting. Odegaard took pictures of the fans. Carragher spat on a 14 year old girl. I don't think his judgement and morality is placed to judge him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy7211 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Just now, Genie said: They sacked Gray and Keys for less. I don't agree with this. They clearly don't (or at least didn't) judge women as fully rounded people deserving of respect. The clip of Gray asking Charlotte Jackson to tuck his sound kit in whilst he's pulling his jeans open is disgusting, and you can see she's not happy with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 16 minutes ago, Jonesy7211 said: I don't agree with this. They clearly don't (or at least didn't) judge women as fully rounded people deserving of respect. The clip of Gray asking Charlotte Jackson to tuck his sound kit in whilst he's pulling his jeans open is disgusting, and you can see she's not happy with it. I’m certainly not saying they didn’t deserve to be sacked, but Carragher spat at a girl. That’s another level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted February 5 VT Supporter Share Posted February 5 4 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: Right, we would need to do two wins better than a side that hasn't lost a single game in which they've kept 11 men on the pitch. And that isn't even Man City! We would need to win pretty much every remaining game in the season, I think it's not unreasonable for the media to consider that so unlikely to happen it's not worth analysing too deeply. They have to play us at Villa Park, could be 2 points after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted February 5 VT Supporter Share Posted February 5 Enjoying the insight from Michail Antonio on Sky. I’ve always thought he speaks well when interviewed and he’s showing he’s got a brain on him (even if he’s keeping it warm with a daft hat). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 4 hours ago, Genie said: I’m certainly not saying they didn’t deserve to be sacked, but Carragher spat at a girl. That’s another level. Carragher is a horrible twunt, how he’s held in such esteem by Sky I have no idea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 5 hours ago, Jonesy7211 said: I don't agree with this. They clearly don't (or at least didn't) judge women as fully rounded people deserving of respect. The clip of Gray asking Charlotte Jackson to tuck his sound kit in whilst he's pulling his jeans open is disgusting, and you can see she's not happy with it. You must be a bit prudish to call it digusting, inapproproate in the workplace definately, although they did get sacked for more than just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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