Jonoridge91 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Tipping him for England, whilst id love to see him, lowton & gabby rewarded for there performances, Westwood would be useless in hodgsons ridged 442 formation, not a criticism of westy, but he needs 2 midfielders next too him. He would get absolutely slaughtered by the press, so I hope he gets overlooked until we get a national team manager that knows his arse from his elbow. Why should Westwood be picked ahead of Carrick (the player Westwood wants to become) anyway? For the same reason Townsend & Sterling are in the England setup. They're hardly at the best in the country at their position but it's all about looking at potential and to the future I suppose. Mid 30's Carrick or early 20's Westwood both doing a similar role... Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 is 32 mid 30s now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 4, 2013 Moderator Share Posted September 4, 2013 is 32 mid 30s now?For an outfield footballer yeah cuz 35 is basically 40 i.e. finished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonoridge91 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 is 32 mid 30s now? Thought he was 34. Still 10 years difference near enough. It's the only reason I can see why Sterling is making the cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 (edited) is 32 mid 30s now? Thought he was 34. Still 10 years difference near enough. It's the only reason I can see why Sterling is making the cut. I can't see him choosing Jamaica over England, but I think the FA recognizes it as a possibility and since he hasn't played a competitive match for England yet, he isn't cap tied. I think it's like Zaha in that they're calling him up to keep him from another country, whereas Westwood doesn't have that threat. Oh and he plays for a "smaller" club. That too. Edit: If he has played a competitive match then please correct me, but I think all he's played is a friendly. Edited September 4, 2013 by Rovers13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 same with Barkley and Jenkinson as well. really only reason some of these players got called up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Just watching the FL72 (sky bollocks) preview show, James Scowcroft and that old presenter who does the lower league games discussing Premier League managers signing players from League One. Apparently it doesn't happen anymore, they then discussed David Platt moving from Crewe to Villa and how he didn't look out of place (sound familiar?) Which led to talking about Nick Powell and how he moved to Man Utd but had to drop to the Championship on loan to get a game, therefore proving their point! Are these guys for real? They had every opportunity to mention Westwood, but as usual lazy, uninformed pundits know very very little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 13, 2013 Moderator Share Posted September 13, 2013 It just shows how lazily those shows are put together. You would assume a lot of planning and research goes into making a TV show (or rather I would HOPE that it does) but then you watch and realise you could do a show like that by just turning up on the day and giving generic answers to mundane questions. I watched Merse the other day and he also missed a blatant opportunity to use Villa as an example of something someone says doesn't happen any more. I can't remember the exact incident but I can remember being disappointed in 'our' Merse that he hadn't nipped it in the bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Just watching the FL72 (sky bollocks) preview show, James Scowcroft and that old presenter who does the lower league games discussing Premier League managers signing players from League One. Apparently it doesn't happen anymore, they then discussed David Platt moving from Crewe to Villa and how he didn't look out of place (sound familiar?) Which led to talking about Nick Powell and how he moved to Man Utd but had to drop to the Championship on loan to get a game, therefore proving their point! Are these guys for real? They had every opportunity to mention Westwood, but as usual lazy, uninformed pundits know very very little. Thought the exact same thing when I saw it! I was screaming at the Telly. Shocking really when they are so called experts of the lower leagues and couldn't be bothered mentioning Matty and Ash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandaq Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Shocking really. It`s the same thing over here, probably a little bit worse since it`s more limited and we are a small country so only the big teams get mentioned in things like that. This season it has been more positive by villa, but it`s more like "they played great but what did the other team do wrong" and go on from there. Guess it is better then anything but I hate it. Like for example, they had the deadline day when that was on, live for about 7hours. They talked about villa and kozak for about 30 seconds or so, maybe uptil 1 minute but that is being generous. That is insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Neither Westwood or Lowton were mentioned in the football 365 england 50 player world cup watch, so people are still unaware of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Neither Westwood or Lowton were mentioned in the football 365 england 50 player world cup watch, so people are still unaware of them. Gooood... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca1888 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) The whole model for sports/football journalism is broken. There's no real analysis, certainly, in football and that seems to be the case in every country where I have watched the Premier League. Is it to do with time and cost restraints at the various TV stations I wonder? As an example, it's far easier for a pundit to come up with a quick opinion on a Bale or Ozil than a Kozak. The current TV model dictates that you fill airtime as cheaply and quickly as possible which means they endlessly debate the same old players and stuff. If anyone listened to Talksport over the summer, all they seemed to focus on was Bale and Arsene Wenger (with a side order of Rooney thrown in for good measure). The net result of this was hours and hours of cheap programming with the same old fans phoning in. In the meantime, Talksport were making a nice little sum flogging adverts every half hour. Making an hour's show about Villa signing the likes of Lowton and Westwood would require them to get off their arses and do some research into the respective careers and backgrounds of both lads whilst interviewing folk from Crewe and Sheffield as well as Villa. Don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen, but when a resourceful young journalist does eventually decide to follow the story, expect the likes of Talksport and the tabloids' main men etc. to jump on the back of it and recite the article as if it was their own research and opinion. It's a lazy, lazy, lazy model for reporting news totally driven by money. Edited September 14, 2013 by Macca1888 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 The whole model for sports/football journalism is broken. There's no real analysis, certainly, in football and that seems to be the case in every country where I have watched the Premier League. Is it to do with time and cost restraints at the various TV stations I wonder? As an example, it's far easier for a pundit to come up with a quick opinion on a Bale or Ozil than a Kozak. The current TV model dictates that you fill airtime as cheaply and quickly as possible which means they endlessly debate the same old players and stuff. If anyone listened to Talksport over the summer, all they seemed to focus on was Bale and Arsene Wenger (with a side order of Rooney thrown in for good measure). The net result of this was hours and hours of cheap programming with the same old fans phoning in. In the meantime, Talksport were making a nice little sum flogging adverts every half hour. Making an hour's show about Villa signing the likes of Lowton and Westwood would require them to get off their arses and do some research into the respective careers and backgrounds of both lads whilst interviewing folk from Crewe and Sheffield as well as Villa. Don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen, but when a resourceful young journalist does eventually decide to follow the story, expect the likes of Talksport and the tabloids' main men etc. to jump on the back of it and recite the article as if it was their own research and opinion. It's a lazy, lazy, lazy model for reporting news totally driven by money. I can agree in a way, but Adrian Durham on talksport is actually really vocal about Westwood and is always talking him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Westwood can go under the radar all he likes, fed up of our players being tapped up on England duty (Barry, Milner, Young and Downing of recent). **** England. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myko Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 To be fair, from this seasons performances Westwood doesn't to even be considered for England. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I like Westwood, but he was poor today. Got bullied off the bull far too much. Needs to eat some beefcake or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KjParton Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Hope he doesn't have second season syndrome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Hope he doesn't have second season syndrome! Funny how everyone talked about Benteke having it, when it's our under-the-radar performers who seem to be suffering! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I like Westwood, but he was poor today. Got bullied off the bull far too much. Needs to eat some beefcake or something. That happens most games. Physical presence he is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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