Macca1888

Market value is whatever we say. Guzan has just signed up to a nice new contract, too, so good luck gunners! This is the cockney press simply being very disrespectful to Villa once again. It was Benteke last year and now it's Brad. No, market value is what the market says not what we say. That would be our valuation, which I would expect to be higher this the market valuation because of how important he is to us. Yes. We are saying the same thing - "market value" is irrelevant as we are setting the price. Thus, when it comes to likes of Brad, "market value" is whatever we say.

He's far superior to any keeper at Arsenal.

Market value is whatever we say. Guzan has just signed up to a nice new contract, too, so good luck gunners! This is the cockney press simply being very disrespectful to Villa once again. It was Benteke last year and now it's Brad.

A class above us in all respects? Not too sure about that. Ah, I see the comment was made a week or so ago.

A class above us in all respects? Not too sure about that.

Well, in theory however many pages are put into this thread over the space of the next year or so. Delph, Petrov, Downing, etc. were all terrible for Villa a lot longer than Tonev has been so far. Dismissing a player in his first season is madness, doing it after 2 starts for a cub, I don't know what to say. Problem is, i cant see him getting too many chances, injuries permitting. You haven't the slightest idea of how many chances he will get, my friend - injuries or otherwise.

What's nice about that photo is that it captures the moment we are all celebrating an Aston Villa academy graduate sinking an oil sheik's financially-doped vanity project.

Yep, he did drop clangers - and probably has a few more in him - but that's all part and parcel of being a young defender and learning his trade at the highest level.

It's what Spurs are doing.

This is why writing young players off is too soon is a risky business. You have to give people time - in any walk of life - to prove themselves. Every one of youngsters who have come through in the last three years have been given a huge baptism of fire. In fact I can't think of any other set of youngsters that have had such a tough introduction to Premier League football. Our club was in turmoil when the likes of Clark were first thrown into the action - if he had been blooded into a ready made winning team like man utd three years ago people would have been talking about him in the same (over the top, admittedly) way that they have been speaking about the likes of Smalling and Jones. I'll say it again: when Clark was representing England at youth levels he was skipper of a cohort that included the likes of Gibbs, Sturridge etc. He's a class act and should be all the better for the experiences of the past three years.

I think people need to be a bit more organic with their thinking. There are all sorts of scenarios that could arise with Villa both as a business and as a football club, nothing is set in stone in football. The way we are viewed as a football club now could be very different to how we are viewed by Christmas. The way we are viewed as a club by the end of this season could be very different to how we are viewed in one, two or three seasons' time. The same applies to our funding, revenues and transfer spend.

ARGUABLY? The day those mustard guzzlers from Norfolk are a bigger club than Villa will be when pigs fly! Lambert looked at the potential at Villa, the stadium, the training facilities, and the sheer class of the club and thought that will do for me. Just like when Taylor left a good Watford side to come to us. The potential at Villa is frightening. If only someone could ever achieve it. For a promising British manager, getting the Villa job is still one of the best managerial jobs around. Aston Villa firing on all cylinders is a match for ANY job. Don't listen to the hype and bullshit about Man Utd - pre the Premier League they were also-rans. They're the media's go to club, their muse, if you will. Think X Factor: no one gives a monkeys but it's in the papers every week filling up space and making money. Man Utd are the football equivalent built up by the media as a means of making money, selling TV advertising space and filling pages of tedious newspapers. One Direction are another example of such a media built cash cow. A certain type of demographic (easily swayed by the media, lowish IQ, very young, impressionable etc.) gets sucked in by the coverage of these entities and simply hand over their cash making the marketing people and media companies behind them very rich and very happy. May Villa never sell their soul to the media!

Possibly the worst comment I've read on this forum.

Guzan is the best in the league.

Maybe, just maybe, he'll manage a successful Aston Villa?