Condimentalist Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I just find it staggering how much time people have dedicated to talking about Ashley bloody Westwood 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 7 minutes ago, PatrickCousens said: I just find it staggering how much time people have dedicated to talking about Ashley bloody Westwood Perhaps its because he is a very significant topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, gharperr said: thats not what im complaining about...and shows your missing the whole point... but ok im complaining about people using stats as in X vs y...y was lower than x therefore Y is bad...and its stupid to view football in that simplistic form...and thats what sportsjoe did...and many people who try to use "stats" (badly) here do edit: there could be TONS of reasons why hes shit...but if you just want to highlight passing stats and touch stats why he is shit...and compare it other positions which other people dont play..i will laugh at you and think youre doing stats HORRIBLY wrong. almost some kind of analysis has to go with it not trying to brag or anything..but i make 10% of my income from the illogical POV that showing in these stats...people here making it far too simplistic and football stats 101 Sorry,sorry misread the context I agree, am very dubious of stats. Edited December 16, 2016 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 1 hour ago, PatrickCousens said: I just find it staggering how much time people have dedicated to talking about Ashley bloody Westwood we wouldnt if our managers werent so dedicated to picking the fraud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jareth Posted December 17, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2016 10 hours ago, PatrickCousens said: I just find it staggering how much time people have dedicated to talking about Ashley bloody Westwood I agree, I for one refuse to discuss Ashley Westwood, and certainly not by adding another post to a forum thread on the topic of that waste of space Ashley Westwood. Ashley Westwood. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 12 hours ago, gharperr said: Is touches just everytime a player touches the ball whilst on it? Because if jedinak didnt have a very high number compared to rest then i would be extremely worried. Given he plays in midfield position which would get pressed the least. And plays in a position where its one of the easiest for CB's to pass to if theyre facing any half-assed press / moving the ball around at the back +FB. Just how westwood as pointed out by keyblade used to have 50-60 passes in a game under lambert. (pretty sure he played the deepest midfielder a lot of the time) And grealish play style literally defines he gets more touches....(as before you criticized ayew getting more touches than westwood) I mean, isnt that EXACTLY what he did against blues? pick players and intentionally bypassed them (midfield) by hoofing it every oppertunity. It isnt stupid, its just a different style. It wasnt a tactic to bypass westwood.because its westwood. I it does still seem wishwashy stats are still being used to prove hes shit...whilst previously...semi stats proved why hes good...was horseshit by you guys in the past aka all these stats youre trying to use to fit your POV...is awful for people who try to use stats in a meaningful way I don't see many just relying on stats. Watch the game and use stats to support that view. It clearly paints the picture that he's absolutely garbage right now. Every player on both sides (who played 90 mins) had more touches. The Norwich left back attempted more passes. To argue that's down to tactics is laughable IMO, and seems the type of blind defence we used to see of Westwood in the past. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 He was shit on Tuesday. Stats are superfluous at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 I've generally been a fan but he was terrible the other night. I don't think he handles the pressure well and goes missing. That one shot he had would have been a great chance had he not rushed and rolled it to Grealish instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Westwood was a stats player who defence was he kept games ticking over. drop down a level and he doesnt even do that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 On 12/15/2016 at 22:33, dounavilla said: I'm up for breaking into his house, shitting in a pair of this pants and replacing them back in his drawer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 On 16/12/2016 at 22:46, PatrickCousens said: I just find it staggering how much time people have dedicated to talking about Ashley bloody Westwood It's staggering that he's still cheating a living at our club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Hopefully he won't be in the starting eleven today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Wouldn't surprise me if he was one of the players Xia was talking about after Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 1 hour ago, DCJonah said: Wouldn't surprise me if he was one of the players Xia was talking about after Norwich. 2 players I was thinking of arent in starting XI of Westwood and Ayew. Elphick is another but I dont think he is conning us but just not very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 2 hours ago, DCJonah said: Wouldn't surprise me if he was one of the players Xia was talking about after Norwich. He most definitely was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 2 hours ago, DCJonah said: Wouldn't surprise me if he was one of the players Xia was talking about after Norwich. Anybody who thinks he works hard and isn't in the comfort zone is deluded. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 18, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2016 On 16/12/2016 at 22:46, PatrickCousens said: I just find it staggering how much time people have dedicated to talking about Ashley bloody Westwood Thanks for taking the time out to post this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 18, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2016 3 hours ago, AshVilla said: Hopefully he won't be in the starting eleven today He wasn't............ And we won. Coincidence? I struggle to decide who is worse out of Westwood and Gardner as they are both pretty damn awful but we probably do a little better as a team without Westwood as Gardner does at lease get stuck in more and at least attempts forward passing occasionally. For me Bruce got it right today but ideally it would be neither of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 How did we let it get to the point where he's the only midfielder at the club who can somewhat competently pass the ball? RDM's worst offence imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) when he first came on he chased after a QPR player and in trying to challenge him .....bounced off the back of him. not sure i have ever seen that done before.....one for the coaching manuals,I guess It was like a cannon in Billiards. Edited December 18, 2016 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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