smetrov Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 .............Are we top of the relegation mini league ? .......or do you count Norwich ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 12 th down so Norwich are top of our league We're 4th in the league ;-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 I only deal with statistics and facts. Wishful thinking, speculation and hope are for others. Going back in this thread, I noticed this and felt that it had to be addressed. I'm almost lost for words at that simplicity of this - how anyone can solely 'deal' with stats in football is beyond me. One of the reasons that football is so interesting and worthy of debate is the fact that the devil is in the details - the mitigating factors, the circumstantial evidence, the hundreds of intangible factors that affect each game; stats can so often paint a picture that doesn't actually reflect the events of a game, that to rely on them solely to articulate an opinion is ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Yup , that is one of the most narrow minded statements I have ever read on here which takes some doing . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 That's the sort of evening I like. Go up a place in the table without kicking a ball! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8pints Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 That's the sort of evening I like. Go up a place in the table without kicking a ball! My thoughts exactly. Plus, Sunderland play Chelsea - could be 0 points for 0 Neil. Wigan play QPR, Reading play Southampton and Fulham play Newcastle - Hopefully those are all draws. So six of the teams around us are playing each other. A win against Stoke would give us added strength, if they drew (Even two or four of them), even though we'd stay 15th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 The next four games will determine whether our actual improvement is a false dawn with the last two teams we have just played? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwpzxjor1 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 The teams around us all playing each other isn't a good thing IMO, it means there's guaranteed points for those around us. I'd take a draw against Stoke, which is sad to say. I can see Reading getting a few points this weekend. They have Southampton and then Sunderland in midweek, so they could certainly getget 6 points before next week's games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Yes it's quite a big week for Reading. If they can get 4 or 6 points everyone will be right back in the shit next weekend (and QPR will be adrift). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormandyVillan Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Looking at the League Table, I can't help noticing what a dramatic effect a single bad half of football has had on Villa this season. If we'd simply held on to a half-time lead at Southampton, there would be a bottom three of QPR (6 points), Southampton (9) and Reading (9) adrift of the rest, with Villa sitting fairly comfortably on 17 points and looking in no immediate danger. It's the second half collapse there that has put us in trouble ever since. That's not to say we're too good to be in a relegation fight. I don't think we are. But it's a good illustration of various clichés about it being "a thin line" and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted December 4, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted December 4, 2012 very thin line, couple of lucky richochets for chicarito that had he had less luck and the ball had **** off a long way after a bad first touch and we could have had at least a point, possible 3 of man u, bags of confidence and be up the table. possibel less nervy displays at reading and qpr too... tons of what ifs, and i'm sure qpr are saying what if when they hit the woodwork it had gone in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBM Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 we wont get anything from stoke imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Stoke is a winnable game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 I don't think we'll be able to beat Stoke with their form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Stoke are in good form and are a very tough team. I'm sure if we don't win there will be pandemonium on here. That said, I have a sneaky feeling we'll get something out of it, I think we'll win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 4, 2012 Moderator Share Posted December 4, 2012 I think people need to look a little closer at Stoke's form, it isn't actually that great away from home. Their record in the last 6 games away from the Britannia is; W 1 D 2 L3 They have been picking up most of their points at home rather on their travels. It will be a tough game and they are certainly a tough team to play against but their recent form on the road isn't all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 we wont get anything from stoke imo We will need a much better display than the last 2 games I'd agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 the likes of us and stoke are so unpredictable that anything could happen tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 FFS How did we let this happen that a team like bloody Stoke come to Villa Park and we are only hopeful that we may sneak a point off them? Bad times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 FFS How did we let this happen that a team like bloody Stoke come to Villa Park and we are only hopeful that we may sneak a point off them? Bad times Check out the last two and a half years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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