Risso Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 I have been told Ron, Fab and Gabby are likely to leave the club. Randy is unwilling to break the current financial restraints to offer them improved terms. Is this the same source that told you that a deal would be completed shortly after our Premier League safety was assured? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 I have been told Ron, Fab and Gabby are likely to leave the club. Randy is unwilling to break the current financial restraints to offer them improved terms. Is this the same source that told you that a deal would be completed shortly after our Premier League safety was assured? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 There is no way we would sign Senderos to sit on the bench if he earning 10-15k per week if we couldn't improve Vlaar's contract. That money could have been used to keep our best CB if it was deemed one or the other I reckon we would have done that. Well I would hope so anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Delph and Agbonlahor are already earning more than they are worth - it would not be difficult to replace them on those salaries - let them go if they think they are that good. I would be interested to see who would come in for them offering higher salaries. Vlaar is different, our best player, our most important player, we need to keep him, and need to agree a salary commensurate with his importance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracker1234 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 I have been told Ron, Fab and Gabby are likely to leave the club. Randy is unwilling to break the current financial restraints to offer them improved terms. Apart from being our longest serving player I don't understand why Gabby should be offer a improved terms contract, if he loves the Villa he should just sign for the same as he's getting now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suttonpaul Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Delph and Agbonlahor are already earning more than they are worth - it would not be difficult to replace them on those salaries - let them go if they think they are that good. I would be interested to see who would come in for them offering higher salaries. Vlaar is different, our best player, our most important player, we need to keep him, and need to agree a salary commensurate with his importance. Except they are on average PL salaries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 The Guardian has Ron on their list of "Don'ts" in their World Cup Transfer Do's and Don't's article:Ron Vlaar, Holland and Aston Villa The Villa defender was undoubtedly one of the standout centre-backs in Brazil – which begs the question of whether he has looked unimpressive in the Premier League only due to the standard of his team-mates. Don’t be fooled – Louis van Gaal is a shrewd operator who built a defensive system around Vlaar, often favouring a back three to compensate for the appalling lack of pace. The heat of Brazil and naturally slower rhythm of international football suits the veteran far better than the helter-skelter stylings of English football. And that's not even taking into account his injury record, which is a bit spotty. I'm certain that neutrals don't rate him as highly as (some) Villa fans do. I'm going to remain positive that we'll be able to hang onto him. But that's so inaccurate it's not even worth reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heid3ster Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 I have been told Ron, Fab and Gabby are likely to leave the club. Randy is unwilling to break the current financial restraints to offer them improved terms. Apart from being our longest serving player I don't understand why Gabby should be offer a improved terms contract, if he loves the Villa he should just sign for the same as he's getting now. At the risk of wandering too far off topic, I wouldn't even mind if Gabby were offered reduced wages and performance-based bonuses. Motivation appears to be a problem with him. Give him an incentive to bang in say 10 goals a season, if he performs well he'll be paid well. I'm least worried about losing him because 1) he's the least consistent performer of the three and 2) I don't think he'll get many offers elsewhere. Delph and Vlaar are another matter. Vlaar definitely deserves a raise. I'd like to see Delph at least get an extension at the same pay. Both are very important to us. Delph is just now starting to fulfill his promise, it would be a real shame to lose him and see him go on to fulfill that potential somewhere else. But that's so inaccurate it's not even worth reading Shhhhh. We know that. Don't tell the other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArteSuave Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) The Guardian has Ron on their list of "Don'ts" in their World Cup Transfer Do's and Don't's article:Ron Vlaar, Holland and Aston Villa The Villa defender was undoubtedly one of the standout centre-backs in Brazil – which begs the question of whether he has looked unimpressive in the Premier League only due to the standard of his team-mates. Don’t be fooled – Louis van Gaal is a shrewd operator who built a defensive system around Vlaar, often favouring a back three to compensate for the appalling lack of pace. The heat of Brazil and naturally slower rhythm of international football suits the veteran far better than the helter-skelter stylings of English football. And that's not even taking into account his injury record, which is a bit spotty. I'm certain that neutrals don't rate him as highly as (some) Villa fans do. I'm going to remain positive that we'll be able to hang onto him. But that's so inaccurate it's not even worth reading How many times?! Did you not hear the man? Ron "appalling lack of pace" Vlaar is a transfer don't. Edited July 15, 2014 by ArteSuave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted July 15, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2014 I have been told Ron, Fab and Gabby are likely to leave the club. Randy is unwilling to break the current financial restraints to offer them improved terms. This sounds bad, but even if it's true, it's not really new news. It sounds like they will leave when their contracts expire. Just like at least I have thought for a while already. Our hope is that we get a new owner in a year's time, who will then try to sign them if he sees it fit. And I also agree with those people who say that Delph and Gabby can go with their current wages. Vlaar is the only one I worry about. So, don't be discouraged by this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 https://vine.co/v/MPPmxXDViEe jj Yeah real slow. GTFO. Man 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 If we really are not prepared to break our current financial restraints to keep our captain and our best player of last season it seems our current owner is prepared to run us into the ground as a football club. These are 3 of the few names we have left at the club and to risk losing all of them would be straight out of the Carson Yeung play book! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) Just sell them if they don't want to sign... 10 mil for Ron 7 mil for Delph and higuest bid for Gabby. Give 20 mil to Lambert to replace them. Edited July 15, 2014 by KSV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 If they do not want to sign I agree KSV but we need to make a reasonable offer first to know if they are up for staying and we all know that all of the money from any sales will not be given to the manager to spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) If they do not want to sign I agree KSV but we need to make a reasonable offer first to know if they are up for staying and we all know that all of the money from any sales will not be given to the manager to spend.Definitely. Agree 100%. However, I can't see Ron staying if Roma or Man Utd come in. We wont match their offer and even if we did.. he is 29 and probably has CL aspirations. Don't blame him for going. Delph owes us for sticking by him with injury and hes been on a big salary during those years. Gabby wont find a better deal elsewhere so happy for him to look. He may as well take a pay cut and stay than take a pay cut and leave.Whether Randy gives the money.. who knows. I think he might give player sales to Paul. Its not as if he can pocket it for himself. Edited July 15, 2014 by KSV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Vlaar's stock has never been higher and his bargaining position has never been greater. Coming off a stand out World Cup with only one year left on his contract. I would question his sanity if he wasn't pushing for a big money move to a champions league club. He won't ever get again the kind of offers he will be getting now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Delph and Agbonlahor are already earning more than they are worth - it would not be difficult to replace them on those salaries - let them go if they think they are that good. I would be interested to see who would come in for them offering higher salaries. Vlaar is different, our best player, our most important player, we need to keep him, and need to agree a salary commensurate with his importance. Except they are on average PL salaries That sounds about right for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suttonpaul Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Yea that's why they deserve those salaries... Average Players > Average Wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
479Villan Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Guardian transfer rumors say Roma for £6M. SIAP.http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jul/15/rumour-mill-arturo-vidal-edinson-cavani-daryl-janmaat-transfers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) Why would Vlaar sign a new contract? He just had a brilliant World Cup, has a much bigger global profile now, plays for a club that has almost been relegated in consecutive seasons, that has little money to spend on new players, and is up for sale. Edited July 16, 2014 by maqroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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