AntrimBlack Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 For whatever reason, he has lost what talent he had. Now looks quite clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I thought he recovered quite well after the goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I thought he recovered quite well after the goal. Only because Van Gaal bizarrely switched Young to the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I liked him two years ago despite some errors..I still think with better coaching there's a decent player in there although not sure it's at RB. That said having Hutton in as a regular this season shows the gulf in defensive quality between the two. It's been great these season having two regular full backs who know how to defend in one on ones and that has helped our defensive record big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I liked him two years ago despite some errors..I still think with better coaching there's a decent player in there although not sure it's at RB. That said having Hutton in as a regular this season shows the gulf in defensive quality between the two. It's been great these season having two regular full backs who know how to defend in one on ones and that has helped our defensive record big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie09 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I liked him two years ago despite some errors..I still think with better coaching there's a decent player in there although not sure it's at RB. That said having Hutton in as a regular this season shows the gulf in defensive quality between the two. It's been great these season having two regular full backs who know how to defend in one on ones and that has helped our defensive record big time. If I had to give Lowton some advice , it would be this : you know Matthew , there was a time when Hutton was considered one of the worst players to don the claret and blue , and now look , he's the new John Gidman . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I liked him two years ago despite some errors..I still think with better coaching there's a decent player in there although not sure it's at RB. That said having Hutton in as a regular this season shows the gulf in defensive quality between the two. It's been great these season having two regular full backs who know how to defend in one on ones and that has helped our defensive record big time. If I had to give Lowton some advice , it would be this : you know Matthew , there was a time when Hutton was considered one of the worst players to don the claret and blue , and now look , he's the new John Gidman . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 He's good enough as back up but I'm not not sure confident in him as a defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) He's good enough as back up but I'm not not sure confident in him as a defender. Then he isn't good enough to even be back-up. It is a basic requirement (or should be) that any defender in the squad should at the very least not be a complete liability in that department. Edited December 21, 2014 by Isa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 21, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted December 21, 2014 Clark can cover as LB, but can any of our other CB's cover as RB? Better than Lowton I mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Clark can cover as LB, but can any of our other CB's cover as RB? Better than Lowton I mean? Okore played there a few times for his old club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 21, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted December 21, 2014 Clark can cover as LB, but can any of our other CB's cover as RB? Better than Lowton I mean? Okore played there a few times for his old club. Thanks, that's interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I liked him two years ago despite some errors..I still think with better coaching there's a decent player in there although not sure it's at RB. That said having Hutton in as a regular this season shows the gulf in defensive quality between the two. It's been great these season having two regular full backs who know how to defend in one on ones and that has helped our defensive record big time. If I had to give Lowton some advice , it would be this : you know Matthew , there was a time when Hutton was considered one of the worst players to don the claret and blue , and now look , he's the new John Gidman . As good a season as Hutton is having, he'll never be the new John Gidman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Clark can cover as LB, but can any of our other CB's cover as RB? Better than Lowton I mean? Would rather keep playing with 3 CBs against the better clubs, think it helps Vlaar and Clark. Hutton would be fine as wing back and Bacuna would give it a go aswell. Don't think Lowton quite has the energy for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I am always surprised at the utter astonishment on here when Lowton has a poor game. He had a great first season - but a woeful second - and nothing Ive seen makes me hopeful he can cut it in the PL - for where we are he's probably reasonable back up (personally I prefer Bacuna over Lowton) - any reasonable performances from Lowton should be viewed as a bonus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Poor defender. I think it was a big mistake switching young to the right for them. He had the beating of lowton pretty much every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 He wasn't great in defence or attack v Man Utd, but that doesn't change what we already know: He's a decent, cheap option to have on the bench or to play when we have 3 CB's and/or need some crosses coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Too slow for this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpaywasawesome Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) As much as we should rightly criticise his vulnerability in defence, he was also hung out to dry by Lambert. At the end of the first half, there was almost unanimous consensus that Lowton was struggling big time against Young, and good goal scoring opportunities were to likely to be the result of Young constantly skinning him. Everyone could see that. This is not revisionism or hindsight - this was astutely observed by the whole room of people I was watching in, as well as many on the site. But Lambert didn't do anything at half-time to change anything. Surely he noticed the problem? I don't know what he told Lowton to do differently to prevent himself being beaten, dropping deeper or whatever but it didn't work - what was the rationale of keeping Lowton there instead of say Bacuna? It wasn't as if Lowton was offering much in attack either way because he was constantly pegged back by Young(he didn't have the pace to catch him on the break) and everyone knew Bacuna, on the other hand had the pace and athleticism to keep up with Young. These types of situation I feel we shouldn't blame the player but the manager for making him look shit. If you play Barry at fullback against speedy players he's gonna look like dogshit, as he did a few times under DOL - Dennis Rommedahl FFS looked like a world-beater when up against Barry. There's a good player in there - Lowton has showed us glimpses of his ability before, his crossing, his passing and technical ability is all there for everyone to see. It doesn't help when Lambert hangs him out to dry. Edited December 22, 2014 by Alpaywasawesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjaacckk91 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 As much as we should rightly criticise his vulnerability in defence, he was also hung out to dry by Lambert. At the end of the first half, there was almost unanimous consensus that Lowton was struggling big time against Young, and good goal scoring opportunities were to likely to be the result of Young constantly skinning him. Everyone could see that. This is not revisionism or hindsight - this was astutely observed by the whole room of people I was watching in, as well as many on the site. But Lambert didn't do anything at half-time to change anything. Surely he noticed the problem? I don't know what he told Lowton to do differently to prevent himself being beaten, dropping deeper or whatever but it didn't work - what was the rationale of keeping Lowton there instead of say Bacuna? It wasn't as if Lowton was offering much in attack either way because he was constantly pegged back by Young(he didn't have the pace to catch him on the break) and everyone knew Bacuna, on the other hand had the pace and athleticism to keep up with Young. These types of situation I feel we shouldn't blame the player but the manager for making him look shit. If you play Barry at fullback against speedy players he's gonna look like dogshit, as he did a few times under DOL - Dennis Rommedahl FFS looked like a world-beater when up against Barry. There's a good player in there - Lowton has showed us glimpses of his ability before, his crossing, his passing and technical ability is all there for everyone to see. It doesn't help when Lambert hangs him out to dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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