Daniel1Avfc Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 If I was Lambert then i'd give him a late sub appearance at CAM for N'Zogbia (to see how he'd do) He needs to be loaned out. I can't see him being chosen before N'Zogbia or Dawkins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si. Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Anybody think he will be loaned out next season? And to what level? Championship? I think this kid is going to be some player. He looks so classy with the ball at his feet. You can tell he was with Arsenal for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lp_villa830 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Needs game time so i would hope so. A mid-tier Championship team would be ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Anybody think he will be loaned out next season? And to what level? Championship? I think this kid is going to be some player. He looks so classy with the ball at his feet. You can tell he was with Arsenal for a while. You can't credit Arsenal any more than Arsenal should credit us for Crowley. It's natural talent. Carruthers came to us apparently because he thought there would be more opportunities at Villa. Crowley went the other way because... well, we don't know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandaq Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Would like to see him next season but if he is only get like 5 apps then it would be better to loan him out. Needs to play right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Wasted year for him last season really, rarely made the bench and inexplicably didn't go out on loan when Albrighton returned to fitness. Can't have another one like that so if he isn't making the bench in the first 10 games, I'd loan him out until the next year to the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaGoMarching Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Didn't he also fall foul of Lambert at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Anybody think he will be loaned out next season? And to what level? Championship? I think this kid is going to be some player. He looks so classy with the ball at his feet. You can tell he was with Arsenal for a while. You can't credit Arsenal any more than Arsenal should credit us for Crowley. It's natural talent. Carruthers came to us apparently because he thought there would be more opportunities at Villa. Crowley went the other way because... well, we don't know why. £££ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gompedyret Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 "Grass is greener" syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaonsea Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 As far as I'm aware he's out of contract in two weeks. The club have offered him a deal. But with the fall out with lambert,I wouldn't be shocked to see the lad leave for the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfcwills10 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Be gutted if he leaves, with us signing all these young players it would be IDIOTIC of us to allow a top young talent that we already have to leave? I can guarantee he's better then Bacuna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Mat Kendrick @MatKendrick 15 Jun Academy graduates Samir Carruthers, Graham Burke & Mikey Drennan expected to sign new #avfc deals when they return for pre-season next month 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Anybody think he will be loaned out next season? And to what level? Championship? I think this kid is going to be some player. He looks so classy with the ball at his feet. You can tell he was with Arsenal for a while. You can't credit Arsenal any more than Arsenal should credit us for Crowley. It's natural talent. Carruthers came to us apparently because he thought there would be more opportunities at Villa. Crowley went the other way because... well, we don't know why. £££ That is just being bitter. They won't be paying their youth prospects any different to us. The kid might have just backed himself to be the next Wiltshire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lp_villa830 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Be gutted if he leaves, with us signing all these young players it would be IDIOTIC of us to allow a top young talent that we already have to leave? I can guarantee he's better then Bacuna How can you guarantee that without seeing either of them playing in the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevangrealish Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) Anybody think he will be loaned out next season? And to what level? Championship? I think this kid is going to be some player. He looks so classy with the ball at his feet. You can tell he was with Arsenal for a while. You can't credit Arsenal any more than Arsenal should credit us for Crowley. It's natural talent. Carruthers came to us apparently because he thought there would be more opportunities at Villa. Crowley went the other way because... well, we don't know why. £££ That is just being bitter. They won't be paying their youth prospects any different to us. The kid might have just backed himself to be the next Wiltshire. I'll have you know that Arsenal pay about twice our wages for younger kids . Not sure about add ons such as signing on fees etc but im guessing they're a lot more than what we would offer. But there's a lot more money involved at the top clubs no matter what level you play at. Research Ruben-Loftus Cheek for more detail. However it seemed that PL preferred Burkey over Carruthers... I can't see many young lads getting a lot of gametime unless drastic transfers out of the club are too happen. Edited June 19, 2013 by kevangrealish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 We should be flooding our young lads to the Championship, say look here is your chance prove to me your good enough, I'd love about ten lads to go on loan, Bowery, Carruthers, Johnson, Stevens, Williams, maybe even Albrighton. The next gen lads as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevangrealish Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 We should be flooding our young lads to the Championship, say look here is your chance prove to me your good enough, I'd love about ten lads to go on loan, Bowery, Carruthers, Johnson, Stevens, Williams, maybe even Albrighton. The next gen lads as well. Williams is going to Bristol City on a permanent deal I think. I'd agree with the rest of them though, however I'm not sure if the Next Gen lads can physically take it considering most of our lads are like 17/18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Think they should be able to, a lot of players go and get loans at that time, Wilshere, Sterling, Chalobah, Ramsey, Wickham, Zaha, Shaw i.e a lot of players have been making some kind of first team impact at that sort of age. Some of them have been stand outs in the Championship and others have done well in the Prem at that age. One thing we have usually struggled is to get out players enough first team experience to make a difference at 21/22. Grealish, Graham in particular as well as Burke, Robinson and Drennan could do with loan moves to the Championship or League 1 to get them that experience (or at least be given time here in the cups) Theres no point playing in the Development league for another 2 or 3 years because it wont do them any good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I'm pretty sure that you'll find that Arsenal will have offered Crowley a year or two pro after his scholarship so he can be on any wages they like in the long run. Considering they've snaffled him from Villa, I think we can all guess that the terms they offered were better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 We should be flooding our young lads to the Championship, say look here is your chance prove to me your good enough, I'd love about ten lads to go on loan, Bowery, Carruthers, Johnson, Stevens, Williams, maybe even Albrighton. The next gen lads as well. Williams is going to Bristol City on a permanent deal I think. I'd agree with the rest of them though, however I'm not sure if the Next Gen lads can physically take it considering most of our lads are like 17/18. I know but the way I see it is we'd be better off hanging onto him and giving him a year long loan and if it doesn't work out it'd only shave peanuts off his value anyway, but if it was to work out we'd probably get a few £££ for him. As for the young lads I think you're better off playing first team in League 2 than U21s here. If you're good enough you're old enough, might as well throw em in at the deep end. Think they should be able to, a lot of players go and get loans at that time, Wilshere, Sterling, Chalobah, Ramsey, Wickham, Zaha, Shaw i.e a lot of players have been making some kind of first team impact at that sort of age. Some of them have been stand outs in the Championship and others have done well in the Prem at that age. One thing we have usually struggled is to get out players enough first team experience to make a difference at 21/22. Grealish, Graham in particular as well as Burke, Robinson and Drennan could do with loan moves to the Championship or League 1 to get them that experience (or at least be given time here in the cups) Theres no point playing in the Development league for another 2 or 3 years because it wont do them any good Yup agree with this! I'd be up for giving one or two a run out in the cups but we've got be trying our utmost to win those games, been too long since we got some silverware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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