smokingzen Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I never appreciate the brown nosing that any new appointment at a football club does, whoever, I also don't appreciate our new manager playing down the club with a downright lie. Idiot.If we are being honest, difficult as it is to accept, Liverpool have had better success in the last forty five years than ourselves. I still believe we've got great potential to become a massive club, and I hope this cause is aided by GH's management. Although, I will say it isn't advisable to make a statement such as this when first appointed at a new football club. I don't care about the Liverpool being a massive club bit, that's blindingly obvious. I care about that 7th to 12th bit. Not only is that entirely wrong, it's probably the grouping of positions we least belong in, why the **** would you say that about that club you've just took over? A moronic statement. I would say a moronic statement is one like the above that is quick to jump on a manager's back based upon a translated quote when the context of the statement is unknown. Also his statement isn't "entirely wrong" which means that your statement must be at least partially wrong. Actually I'm being kind, if his statement isn't 'entirely wrong', i.e., it's partially right, then yours is entirely wrong. Our league positions over the last 18 years of the premiership have been: 6, 6, 6, 11, 16, 10, 6, 16, 8, 8, 6, 6, 7, 5, 4, 18, 10, 2 Averaged out over the full 18 years our average finishing position is 8.38, obviously you can't finish 8.3 rd (that would just be moronic and idiotic hey) so rounding up we would say 9th. If we do the same averaging over the last 10 years we would get 9.3rd, or rounding down, 9th. Only averaging over the last 3 years would we get 6th. At the end of the day we don't know the context of how he said or meant the statement. But there are plenty of contexts where it turns about to be not entirely wrong! Where I do agree however is that he shouldn't have said what he said in any context, he should have heeded the General's comments about how some of our 'supporters' can act like "pit vipers" purely on the basis of a couple of random media quotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 10, 2010 Moderator Share Posted September 10, 2010 All Time Premier League Table - we're 5th if you don't want to bother clicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christer Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Some fans grab every little bit to moan. This time I dont understand the problem? What is important is what he do when i takes over. Not if he, like most of us, thinks that Liverppol is a bigger club then Villa. A newspaper in Sweden have vote of which team their readers support. Liverpool got 32% and Villa 2,5%. And is really important that he thinks we have belonged to 7-12 place, not 6-11. and maybe like someone pointed out, read the next line about imroving year by year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokingzen Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 All Time Premier League Table - we're 5th if you don't want to bother clicking. Do we win a prize for that? My point being, that table is based upon the all time Premier League points tally, not on average finishing position which at the end of the day is the important thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 10, 2010 Moderator Share Posted September 10, 2010 it's great to see he's going out of his way to be there for his match in chargeIsn't it also great to see that the fans are willing to let some quotes, that are at best lost in translation and at worst ill-advised, pass by them in order to keep the feel-good factor alive at least for his first game in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 well, we'll see if he's there for the Stoke game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieB Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I'm not getting worked up about it...going to listen to what he says at PC. It could have been taken completely out of context...and if it wasn't then I'm sure someone at the club will put him right. He does go on to speak about year on year progress. The General said RL's ambition for the club hadn't changed at all, so I'm not going to start branding him a liar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 So, that Honeymoon Period lasted quite a long time, didn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Houllier was wrong in his assessment when he said 7th - 12th. Oh well boo hoo. What he does when he is in charge of the club is the only thing that matters. No the miss perceptions he had about the club before he joined... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 it's great to see he's going out of his way to be there for his match in chargeIsn't it also great to see that the fans are willing to let some quotes, that are at best lost in translation and at worst ill-advised, pass by them in order to keep the feel-good factor alive at least for his first game in charge. can't help it, i think he is completely wrong manager for the club . if he doesn't turn up for the first game it's a major sign of his attitude towards the club i'd like to come back to this thread in 6 months and who is right/wrong in supporting this clown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 it's great to see he's going out of his way to be there for his match in chargeIsn't it also great to see that the fans are willing to let some quotes, that are at best lost in translation and at worst ill-advised, pass by them in order to keep the feel-good factor alive at least for his first game in charge. When will that be then? :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikantcpell Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Why say something like that..it's like he is trying to take some pressure of himself or something (if in fact he said it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarry Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 There's a fair few* dissenters that are from Ireland, and Houllier is French. I see.... *does two = a few? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracker1234 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Why say something like that..it's like he is trying to take some pressure of himself or something (if in fact he said it) Because it's true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted September 10, 2010 Moderator Share Posted September 10, 2010 well, we'll see if he's there for the Stoke game And what if he's not? Sack him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 it's great to see he's going out of his way to be there for his match in chargeIsn't it also great to see that the fans are willing to let some quotes, that are at best lost in translation and at worst ill-advised, pass by them in order to keep the feel-good factor alive at least for his first game in charge. can't help it, i think he is completely wrong manager for the club . if he doesn't turn up for the first game it's a major sign of his attitude towards the club i'd like to come back to this thread in 6 months and who is right/wrong in supporting this clown You and me both. I can't wait to see him bring on the youth players like he did Stevie Gerrard/ Owen/ Carragher, bring in a few exciting foreign players and then push us forward to continue battling for 4th/5th/6th place. No doubt he will get a lot of stick if he doesn't match MON's 6th place (which a lot of people have already said that MON probably wouldn't have achieved this year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokingzen Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Some fans grab every little bit to moan. This time I dont understand the problem? What is important is what he do when i takes over. Not if he, like most of us, thinks that Liverppol is a bigger club then Villa. A newspaper in Sweden have vote of which team their readers support. Liverpool got 32% and Villa 2,5%. And is really important that he thinks we have belonged to 7-12 place, not 6-11. and maybe like someone pointed out, read the next line about imroving year by year. There are a small number of supporters that were vocally against GH's appointment, you remember, the ones that the papers picked up on and quoted as representing the majority of Villa fans. No doubt these same people will now be picking up on any point they can, real or imagined, to try and stick the knife in to our new manager. I'm sure that over time this will only get worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted September 10, 2010 Moderator Share Posted September 10, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeevilla Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 can't help it, i think he is completely wrong manager for the club . if he doesn't turn up for the first game it's a major sign of his attitude towards the club i'd like to come back to this thread in 6 months and who is right/wrong in supporting this clown You are entitled your opinion, but it is a baffling one. Please explain why he is a 'clown'. He has won more trophies in his career than any of our previous managers that I can remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Don't really see the comments that depressing. I mean, if you asked me 'Which teams are Villa not as good as'... I'd say, United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, Man City, Liverpool.....and possibly Everton (even).. I'd say we are a 7th-8th team right now. Although wouldn't say down to 12th :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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