Con Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Like him or loathe him, Bannan is Villa's talisman - but only by default because we can't bear Stephen Ireland. There is a logical reason to think Bannan is the best of them. He was on the pitch for 17/18 points we won this season, and for 13 out of 15 goals we have scored. At a presently bigger club he would have a smoother transition into the first team. To have so much pressure heaped on your shoulders at 23 must be very hard going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 29, 2012 Moderator Share Posted December 29, 2012 Bollocks is he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Like him or loathe him, Bannan is Villa's talisman - but only by default because we can't bear Stephen Ireland. There is a logical reason to think Bannan is the best of them. He was on the pitch for 17/18 points we won this season, and for 13 out of 15 goals we have scored. At a presently bigger club he would have a smoother transition into the first team. To have so much pressure heaped on your shoulders at 23 must be very hard going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beasley14 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Not good enough along with the rest of our midfield. Strength of a 5yr old as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBM Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 would he be any good on the left out wide and not in such a vital position as centre mid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted December 29, 2012 Moderator Share Posted December 29, 2012 No, because he's shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Bannan is crap. He wouldn't get into any other Premier League starting 11. At 23 he really should be dominating games against "smaller clubs" if he were a decent CM. The fact that he is supposedly our best CM only serves to highlight just how shit our midfield options are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Awful player and not good enough if we want to progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 never ever rated this waste of space. we should of got rid ages ago mon was right when he said he wasnt good enough. utter disgrace to the shirt. first player i would ship out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 never ever rated this waste of space. we should of got rid ages ago mon was right when he said he wasnt good enough. utter disgrace to the shirt. first player i would ship out first? Not Hutton or Ireland or warnock or Nzogbia or Makoun but bannan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernova26 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 (edited) Like him or loathe him, Bannan is Villa's talisman - but only by default because we can't bear Stephen Ireland. There is a logical reason to think Bannan is the best of them. He was on the pitch for 17/18 points we won this season, and for 13 out of 15 goals we have scored. At a presently bigger club he would have a smoother transition into the first team. To have so much pressure heaped on your shoulders at 23 must be very hard going. You my friend are spot on. He is our main man. The ones who think otherwise simple don't understand football. They just see a small, unconventional, distinctive player so when he makes an error it sticks out and their small little brains can't see past it - he's the fall guy for the dumb dumbs. Ever wondered why the BBC website has really big font and is so basic to use? Edited December 30, 2012 by supernova26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Like him or loathe him, Bannan is Villa's talisman - but only by default because we can't bear Stephen Ireland. There is a logical reason to think Bannan is the best of them. He was on the pitch for 17/18 points we won this season, and for 13 out of 15 goals we have scored. At a presently bigger club he would have a smoother transition into the first team. To have so much pressure heaped on your shoulders at 23 must be very hard going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 You my friend are spot on. He is our main man. The ones who think otherwise simple don't understand football. They just see a small, unconventional, distinctive player so when he makes an error it sticks out and their small little brains can't see past it - he's the fall guy for the dumb dumbs. Ever wondered why the BBC website has really big font and is so basic to use? What amazes me about people who claim Bannan is small and use this as the starting point of their argument... Bannan is the same height as Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, and Scholes and towers over Carzola and Allen by an inch. Bannan is not small for a footballer. In fact, some might say he is the perfect size to be a great player. You can turn quicker in a smaller space. You can get the ball out of your feet quicker. You have a lower centre-of-gravity and are more easily fouled. However, I recognise that some supporters won't ever be satisfied until we have a First XI that could tag-team with Wolfman in WWF. I don't deny large midfielders can be great players. Football is a great sport because there is literally a role for all shapes and sizes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwegianvillain Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 remember Bannan being linked with a £12mill move to arsenal some years back in norwegian newspapers. Funny to think about. (Villa got loads of coverage in the media because of Carew) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANNY_DYER Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 What amazes me about people who claim Bannan is small and use this as the starting point of their argument... Bannan is the same height as Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, and Scholes and towers over Carzola and Allen by an inch. Bannan is not small for a footballer. In fact, some might say he is the perfect size to be a great player. You can turn quicker in a smaller space. You can get the ball out of your feet quicker. You have a lower centre-of-gravity and are more easily fouled. However, I recognise that some supporters won't ever be satisfied until we have a First XI that could tag-team with Wolfman in WWF. I don't deny large midfielders can be great players. Football is a great sport because there is literally a role for all shapes and sizes. I admire your stance and respect your right to an opinion but with all due respect you either don't go to the games or you've had a cheeky couple of beers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I said the same in the Ireland thread. I'm sick of having to watch shit players like bannan play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I admire your stance and respect your right to an opinion but with all due respect you either don't go to the games or you've had a cheeky couple of beers. You cannot deny that the team has performed better in his presence. 17/18 points won with him on the field. He is a set pieces taker who knits together the play in the middle of the park. He's also got vision for the long ball and through balls. If we go down he'll be sold to another Premiership club. Swansea, perhaps. But by then it will be too late to say "put that in your pipe and smoke it" - unless you are Barry Bannan, of course. Remember a lot of - but not all - Arsenal fans have hated Theo Walcott for just about the whole of his career - until now. Walcott has continued to improve well into his 20s and proven his critics wrong. He's become a key player for Arsenal. Bannan has more to do for Villa fans but those who still think he's a useful player can have the self-belief they are not completely mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 What does Bannan offer to the team? He don't score or get assists, so what does he do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 What does Bannan offer to the team? He don't score or get assists, so what does he do? Good question. I think he's in the team primarily to provide assists, or assists for assists that lead to goals. He's also a specialist set pieces taker. Match commentators compliment his set piece delivery. He delivered an excellent long ball to Benteke against Wigan leading to the Holman chance that hit the crossbar. He's not like Xavi in ability but in style of play Bannan is more like Xavi than other midfielders. Xavi receives the ball, then passes it on, short to another player. He does this for most of the game, keeping possession of the ball with his team. Xavi doesn't dribble or do much long range shooting. Bannan plays more long balls than Xavi for tactical reasons decided by manager. This season Bannan has provided chances for strikers for goals that haven't been taken. In most matches we have not dominated possession near the opponent's final third, so opportunities to provide assists have been limited. He's not an action hero like Frank Lampard or Steven Gerrard - we might expect Gary Gardner to emulate that kind of player because he is much taller, like them. Bannan is not supposed to charge about the pitch flying into tackles, take lots of shots from long range, and arrive late in the penalty area as an extra striker scoring goals like Lampard or Gerrard. That's not how Xavi plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMFy Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Like him or loathe him, Bannan is Villa's talisman - but only by default because we can't bear Stephen Ireland. There is a logical reason to think Bannan is the best of them. He was on the pitch for 17/18 points we won this season, and for 13 out of 15 goals we have scored. At a presently bigger club he would have a smoother transition into the first team. To have so much pressure heaped on your shoulders at 23 must be very hard going. This. He is the first person to get slated when we lose. There was a large number of people on here praising the seemingly successful partnership he was developing with Westwood until the Chelsea game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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