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The RJW63 Official Jack Grealish Appreciation Thread


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15 minutes ago, KAZZAM said:

Gonna be bold and predict him being left out of the euro 2024 squad. 

Think Pamer and Sterling will push him down the pecking order and out. 

Southgate ain't integrating Palmer with barely 6 months before the tournament unless there's masses - and I mean like a dozen - of injuries. He also seems to have gone off Sterling, something about him leaving the World Cup for a bit perhaps because he's had almost no interest in him since. 

So no, I don't see this, Grealish will go if he's fit. 

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2 minutes ago, Mic09 said:

I am not sure 'playing well' is the main call up criteria within the England team. 

its not but he's seemingly lost his teflon in southgates eyes

grealish's problem will be that its a position where a lot of young flashy players excel in, it'll be palmer, then it will be bynoe gittens, then there's also bowen and barnes, maybe madueke

but if he's at city and in CL match day squads he'll make the england team

in fairness if southgate or the next guy play 3 behind kane then he should be in there, he is better than bowen and barnes and id have him over rashford too, its the one thing still missing from his move though, he's not nailed the starting role and i don't think he ever will

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25 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

Luka Modric never ever put up good numbers of goals and assists and he famously really struggled in La Liga

Grealish is a wide forward player.

Modric primarily operates deep in central midfield.

Bit of an odd comparison. Grealish should be compared to the likes of Bale, Sterling etc.

He is a forward. Goals and assist is what he will be judged on.

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11 minutes ago, Pinebro said:

He is a forward. Goals and assist is what he will be judged on.

my problem is that wasn't what he was judged on when he was with us

grealish has very set metrics for which he has been world class, chances created, expected assists, carries, carries in to the opponent penalty area - these are stats that during his time with us he topped the PL and was up there with neymar and messi across europe

man city didn't pay £100m for his goals, if you want to know his drop off then those are the metrics you should be looking at and I'm pretty sure his expected assists was the highest in the CL last year

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4 minutes ago, villa4europe said:

my problem is that wasn't what he was judged on when he was with us

grealish has very set metrics for which he has been world class, chances created, expected assists, carries, carries in to the opponent penalty area - these are stats that during his time with us he topped the PL and was up there with neymar and messi across europe

man city didn't pay £100m for his goals, if you want to know his drop off then those are the metrics you should be looking at and I'm pretty sure his expected assists was the highest in the CL last year

But he isn't even doing what you highlights as his strong points.

Part of why he excelled at that is everything went through him. Smith has even admitted Grealish was given zero instructions or tactics.

That's never going to be the case at a top club. Best managers like Emery and Pep all have sysems which players have to operate within.

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26 minutes ago, Pinebro said:

Grealish is a wide forward player.

Modric primarily operates deep in central midfield.

Bit of an odd comparison. Grealish should be compared to the likes of Bale, Sterling etc.

He is a forward. Goals and assist is what he will be judged on.

Except he wasn't judged on that when he was here, we all defended him on that very issue because we saw what he brought to the team despite his lack of output.

Yet now those same fans are using those metrics to bash him

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Just now, Stevo985 said:

Except he wasn't judged on that when he was here, we all defended him on that very issue because we saw what he brought to the team despite his lack of output.

Yet now those same fans are using those metrics to bash him

We were a newly promoted team and our aim was just staying up. There was absolutely no pressure for him to perform. Would stay in the team no matter what.

With expectation comes pressure

With pressure comes nervousness.

Top players will excel from that pressure. Other will not be able to handle it. All about the mentality of the player.

Grealish gets into survival mode and plays it safe rather than take risk and play with confidence.

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59 minutes ago, Pinebro said:

We were a newly promoted team and our aim was just staying up. There was absolutely no pressure for him to perform. Would stay in the team no matter what.

With expectation comes pressure

With pressure comes nervousness.

Top players will excel from that pressure. Other will not be able to handle it. All about the mentality of the player.

Grealish gets into survival mode and plays it safe rather than take risk and play with confidence.

that has nothing to do with with his goal and assists stats being low here and now being low there

he wasnt bought for goals, its never been his game, if they did then man city are **** stupid

 

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59 minutes ago, Pinebro said:

We were a newly promoted team and our aim was just staying up. There was absolutely no pressure for him to perform. Would stay in the team no matter what.

With expectation comes pressure

With pressure comes nervousness.

Top players will excel from that pressure. Other will not be able to handle it. All about the mentality of the player.

Grealish gets into survival mode and plays it safe rather than take risk and play with confidence.

He didn’t have much output in the championship and he was our best player and captain. The pressure on him there was huge. 
 

Anyway, the comment wasn’t really about Jack. It was more of a general point about output not being the be all and end all if you offer more elsewhere

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55 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

The pressure on him there was huge. 

Not compared to your City's Barcas.

Don't perform there and you're out of the team.

At Villa he could put in 10 dead performances and still be in the team.

Look at Odegaard at Real Madrid. Was a season after his second loan where Zidane put him in for a few consecutive games. He didn't perform and was reduced to the bench the following matches.

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