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On 15/07/2019 at 00:10, Mic09 said:

Why were there so many empty seats? Surely this would have been a sell out?

Partly to do with Indian fans buying up tickets thinking they'd be in the final (some reports saying they were on the market for £8k, so I'm kind of glad some of them failed to sell them on), and (as I saw the most empty section) the members of the MCC not taking their seats. Possibly down to them being a bit snobbish about one day cricket? I couldn't say for sure though. 

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I’ve watched various highlights so many times since Sunday. What an incredible end to the game.

Felt fitting that the 4 year journey was ending against NZ as it started and what an ending! 

Stokes with a superhuman effort to gain his redemption from the Brathwaite final. 

Villa promoted and England winning the World Cup! Bring on the Ashes! I’m getting married in a couple of weeks too, 2019 just keeps on giving!

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1 hour ago, dAVe80 said:

So this is wonderful...

 

Ian Smith has always been a favourite of mine since the early Channel 4 days.  He's obviously fiercely patriotic for NZ but it was faultless how he commentated the end of the game.

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2 hours ago, sharkyvilla said:

Ian Smith has always been a favourite of mine since the early Channel 4 days.  He's obviously fiercely patriotic for NZ but it was faultless how he commentated the end of the game.

He used to bet on the horses in my local bookies all the time. This going back about 25 years

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8 hours ago, sharkyvilla said:

He's obviously fiercely patriotic for NZ but it was faultless how he commentated the end of the game.

Yes, his commentary was brilliant, absolutely top notch perfect.

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6 hours ago, Xela said:

Back to proper cricket now ;)

Thoughts on the test squad? Batting looks weak to me. 

Out batting always looks weak! This is just a last chance to claim a spot alongside Root, Bairstow, Stokes, Buttler. I think they need to tell Roy he's got a spot for the whole Ashes series, take the immediate pressure off him. He's good enough to deserve a proper chance. So there's really only one or two spots up for grabs, and Burns and Denly are in pole position, do we have many decent contenders in county cricket behind those guys?

 

 

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I'm annoyed Foakes has been left out, he had a wonderful series in Sri Lanka, did fine in the West Indies, then they crowbarred JB back in, and I'd rather they just told him to go be a great batsman and have a specialist no.7 Wk instead. 

Understand the reasoning for resting a few it's just a shame this test is so close after the world cup - which was needlessly a couple of weeks longer than it could have been. Woakes having red ball game time is great but I'd be wary of over exerting him, so I'd go with a bowling heavy line up against Ireland

Roy, Burns, Denly, Root, Bairstow, Curran, Moeen, Woakes, Gregory, Stone, Broad.

 

Rest Anderson as he's only had an injury quite recently. Play Leach instead of Broad / Woakes if it's a spinner. Then you've got enough bowling options to not over exert Woakes or Stone with their injury issues, but enough batting for this test. Let's hope that Moeen can quietly find some confidence again with the bat. He's still an asset with the ball in red ball cricket so, I know he had a poor world cup, but different format etc, it's a good match for him to re-set. 

 

Edit, to add I doubt that in reality both Gregory and Stone will play but that's just my eleven for this test.

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9 hours ago, MrDuck said:

Out batting always looks weak! This is just a last chance to claim a spot alongside Root, Bairstow, Stokes, Buttler. I think they need to tell Roy he's got a spot for the whole Ashes series, take the immediate pressure off him. He's good enough to deserve a proper chance. So there's really only one or two spots up for grabs, and Burns and Denly are in pole position, do we have many decent contenders in county cricket behind those guys?

 

 

Dom Sibley has been doing pretty well for the Bears lately and he's playing for the Lions ( along with Gregory ) against the Australian touring side. Hameed hasn't pushed on since coming back with a century at the beginning of the season, so he's not back there yet. Zak Crawley is also playing for the Lions, he's done ok but there haven't been too many options

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7 hours ago, Rodders said:

Dom Sibley has been doing pretty well for the Bears lately and he's playing for the Lions ( along with Gregory ) against the Australian touring side. Hameed hasn't pushed on since coming back with a century at the beginning of the season, so he's not back there yet. Zak Crawley is also playing for the Lions, he's done ok but there haven't been too many options

Batting is very weak in England in general at the minute in the first class game. Are too many youngsters just concentrating on List A or T20? That's where the money is now. 

Root and Bairstow are probably the only top quality batters there and there is room to argue Bairstow has underperformed in tests so far. Roy is not a red ball player and neither is Buttler really. Burns deserves a crack but is Denley the best number 3 we can muster? I suppose we can't keep giving Vince chance after chance. 

Veering off topic slightly, I think the county game now is as weak as I can ever remember. 

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4 minutes ago, Xela said:

Batting is very weak in England in general at the minute in the first class game. Are too many youngsters just concentrating on List A or T20? That's where the money is now. 

Root and Bairstow are probably the only top quality batters there and there is room to argue Bairstow has underperformed in tests so far. Roy is not a red ball player and neither is Buttler really. Burns deserves a crack but is Denley the best number 3 we can muster? I suppose we can't keep giving Vince chance after chance. 

Veering off topic slightly, I think the county game now is as weak as I can ever remember. 

I think in general this season has been more productive for batsmen as they've made the seam smaller on the balls from what I remember.  Batting and spin bowling has taken a hit because so little Championship cricket is played in the peak of summer.  I'm one of those who would prefer Bairstow at 3 and Foakes keeping wicket but that ain't going to happen as Jonny doesn't like it, so we are left with Denly and hoping Roy has the talent to make it in Tests.

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13 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said:

so little Championship cricket is played in the peak of summer.  

Death of county cricket. I spent many a happy summer day watching Hick and Moody obliterate decent attacks at New Road. Couldn't beat it. Counties had genuine top quality overseas players who remained loyal to the county for years. Nowadays there are 2 current overseas players who have played for 6 different counties each in various forms! I guess people move where the money is now like mercenaries. 

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18 hours ago, Rodders said:

 Let's hope that Moeen can quietly find some confidence again with the bat.

I really hope he can. I like Moeen - he's a very likeable bloke, and on his day he's a wonderfully graceful batsman that I love to watch.

But I worry that he's never recovered from that last Ashes tour, I think that pretty much broke him. He's not looked the same player since - his bowling has improved and I think he's now a very decent spinner, but he doesn't seem to have much self-belief with the bat anymore. Another poor Ashes series might just destroy him completely.

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20 hours ago, snowychap said:

Nice opening win for Worcs's in their defence of the evening league title.

Barnard got us out of a pickle with his batting and then a good team performance with the ball and in the field.

A good start

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