StefanAVFC Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 (edited) Moral question; something I was discussing with my mum in the aftermath of this teacher story. 15 year olds, in many cases, are children in a woman's body. Is it any more wrong to to sleep with a 15 year old than it is to sleep with somebody who might have a disability and have a child's mind in an adults body? This is with consent for both cases. Obviously in the eye of the law, it's different. EDIT: And we weren't just discussing this randomly. My brother has some learning difficulties. Edited June 22, 2013 by StefanAVFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meath_Villan Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 eating a bowl of grapefruit is negative calories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 eating a bowl of grapefruit is negative calories It's also negative Ron Swanson points. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 eating a bowl of grapefruit is negative calories It's also negative Ron Swanson points. See my sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 ha exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 22, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2013 If a teacher at my daughter's school had sex with her, I'd be furious with him, and want him sacked and prosecuted - whether she was 15 or 18. I'd also be furious with her. Mike, out of interest where would you draw the line? At what age (or some other marker of maturity, if you prefer) would you consider an individual to be ready to make sexual decisions on his/her own? I don't think I could put a number on it. Pre-puberty is obviously out of the question. After that, I think it's going to vary wildly. Some kids are physically mature but emotionally immature. Some are surprisingly well-adjusted. Some adults never seem to grow up. It depends on the individual. Of course, that's a problem with the law, which needs to set boundaries. The age of consent varies a lot from one country to another, but I guess I'd leave it as it is, and expect the courts to use some common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 (edited) So when your daughter was 18 you thought she wasn't ready? Judging from your initial post. How did/do you judge whether your daughters are ready? Edited June 22, 2013 by legov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 So when your daughter was 18 you thought she wasn't ready? Judging from your initial post. How did/do you judge whether your daughters are ready? I think its almost impossible to judge without giving every individual a personal assessment. Even then, who carries out the assessment? Your dad? A government official? Maybe somebody in a position of trust and care - like your teacher twice your age that's married? I think there needs to be a set legal limit, the alternative is chaos. That limit will be wrong for some people, as it will be wrong for who can drive, when you can marry, whether you are mentally ready to fire a gun, drink booze or smoke pot. That different countries have different age limits shows it can't be definitive. But everybody needs to know definitively what is and isn't allowed so they can be in no doubt that their case is not as 'special' as they will inevitably think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 22, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2013 So when your daughter was 18 you thought she wasn't ready? Judging from your initial post. How did/do you judge whether your daughters are ready? Au contraire. She was not only ready, but active. But with a boyfriend of her own generation. My objection would have been to her having a relationship with a teacher. Totally different situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 If a teacher at my daughter's school had sex with her, I'd be furious with him, and want him sacked and prosecuted - whether she was 15 or 18. I'd also be furious with her. Mike, out of interest where would you draw the line? At what age (or some other marker of maturity, if you prefer) would you consider an individual to be ready to make sexual decisions on his/her own? If there's grass on the pitch, let's play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 (edited) At what age can you join the military and go to war in America? Legally? Edited June 22, 2013 by AVFCforever1991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 (edited) Just a warning to those who may not know, that crash happened only hours ago, both pilot and wing walker are dead. No offence but im not sure if things like that should be posted without a warning tbh. Just feels weird Edited June 22, 2013 by Ingram85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meath_Villan Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Just looking further down the liveleak list .......those Syrian fighters are doing a damn fine job of blowing themselves up with the I.E.Ds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 22, 2013 Moderator Share Posted June 22, 2013 clearing in the woods! Aww and I just got why it's replaced with 'clearing in the woods'. Who coined it btw? Surely a VT exclusive? Its actually the Anglo Saxon derivation of the word it replaces. But in terms of VT I must take the credit for that one. iirc Word Removed was John Cresswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Is it difficult for a father to accept that their daughter is sexually active? I don't have children, and if I did I think this is something I would find quite difficult. Especially since a lot of children these days feel pressured to be adults before they actually are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 22, 2013 Moderator Share Posted June 22, 2013 So when your daughter was 18 you thought she wasn't ready? Judging from your initial post.How did/do you judge whether your daughters are ready? Au contraire. She was not only ready, but active. But with a boyfriend of her own generation. My objection would have been to her having a relationship with a teacher. Totally different situation.What if she was 18 and the teacher in question was 23 ? (happened when I was at school and tbh, no one batted an eyelid that I was aware of) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Is it difficult for a father to accept that their daughter is sexually active? I don't have children, and if I did I think this is something I would find quite difficult. Especially since a lot of children these days feel pressured to be adults before they actually are. Bet you'd encourage your son though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 (edited) **** those pricks standing around having a jolly up and singing at Ascot. **** Ascot. **** it all. Arsehole sport, run by arseholes for arseholes. **** it. Edited June 22, 2013 by CarewsEyebrowDesigner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 A teacher should have nothing more than a professional relationship with their students, regardless of whether the student is 18. I feel that it is entirely acceptable for an adult student and teacher to have a relationship as long as they met each other as adults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Is it difficult for a father to accept that their daughter is sexually active? I don't have children, and if I did I think this is something I would find quite difficult. Especially since a lot of children these days feel pressured to be adults before they actually are. Bet you'd encourage your son though. I don't think I would personally, but I see where you're coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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