AVFCforever1991 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 It wasn't Ryan Lanza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Well I just lost my cool on FB wih a good American friend who invoked God with regards to the massacre . Feel quite bad about it now. Right but still bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I've been discussing this with a few American colleagues. Three of the four insist that the only way to prevent things like this occurring is for even more citizens to start carrying guns. Absolutely insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 People resort to their Gods when they can't explain things rationally. This is an emotional thing that is hard to wrap your head around in it's immediacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Can't wait for the self-serving celebrity tweets.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 14, 2012 Author VT Supporter Share Posted December 14, 2012 I've been discussing this with a few American colleagues. Three of the four insist that the only way to prevent things like this occurring is for even more citizens to start carrying guns. Absolutely insane. Yep, heard an American opinion on the news. "Give the teachers guns" What the actual ****? Solve gun problems by giving everyone guns! That's like the fire department using petrol to put out the fires 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 People resort to their Gods when they can't explain things rationally. This is an emotional thing that is hard to wrap your head around in it's immediacy. god is just a concept by which we measure our pain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 14, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted December 14, 2012 I'm genuinely quite appalled TV channels interviewed children afterwards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I'm equally appalled, but not surprised. The press as probably just disappointed they didn't catch live footage to air. "Headshot, zoom in on that shit, people will LOVE it!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I'm genuinely quite appalled TV channels interviewed children afterwards. Media are parasites 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 WASHINGTON—Following the fatal shooting this morning at a Connecticut elementary school that left at least 27 dead, including 20 small children, sources across the nation shook their heads, stifled a sob in their voices, and reported **** everything. Just **** it all to hell. All of it, sources added. “I’m sorry, but **** it, I can’t handle this—I just can’t handle it anymore,” said Deborah McEllis, who added that “no, no, no, no, no, this isn’t happening, this can’t be real.” “Seriously, what the hell is this? What’s even going on anymore? Why do things like this keep happening?” Continued McEllis, before covering her face with her hands, “Why?” Despairing sources confirmed that the gunman, armed with a semiautomatic assault rifle—a **** combat rifle, Jesus—walked into a classroom full of goddamned children where his mother was a teacher and, good God, if this is what the world is becoming, then how about we just pack it in and **** give up, because this is no way to live. I mean, honestly, all 315 million Americans confirmed. “Well, I suppose we have to try to pick up the pieces and make some sort of sense of this tragedy and—you know what? **** it, I can’t do this,” said Connecticut resident Michael Zaleski, his remarks understandable given the circumstances, because, holy shit, what else can one say? “I’m sorry, but I can’t **** do this. Can you? Can anyone?” News in BriefReport: It Okay To Spend Rest Of Day Curled In Fetal Position Under Desk News in Brief Right To Own Handheld Device That Shoots Deadly Metal Pellets At High Speed Worth All Of This Witnesses said the gunman fired at least 100 rounds during his deadly rampage, which, according to children in the school—goddamnit, how? How? Twenty children. Dead. In a **** school. No. No, no, no. “I just feel so [why does it even matter what this person said when no words can bring 20 dead kids back to life?]” said some person who, just like everyone else, is completely unable to process or handle any of this. “It’s awful. Just too awful to bear.” Americans reported feelings of overwhelming disgust with whatever abhorrent bastard did this and with the world at large for ever allowing it to happen, as well as with politicians, with the NRA, and above all with their own pathetic goddamn selves, sitting in front of a **** computer instead of doing **** anything to help anyone—Christ, as if that were even **** possible, as if anyone could change what happened, as if the same **** bullshit isn’t going to keep happening again and again and **** again before people finally decide it’s time to change the way we live, so what’s the point? What the hell is the goddamned point? “I…” said Tom Miller, 27, after reading an article about the tragedy online. “I just…” “…” he added. At press time…screw it, there’s nothing else to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meath_Villan Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Its **** up man ....made me wake my kid up when i got home tonight for a hug 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted December 15, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted December 15, 2012 Its **** up man ....made me wake my kid up when i got home tonight for a hug You're not the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Regardless of whether you agree with the concept of having guns for self-defense, surely, surely an assault weapons ban makes sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I'm genuinely quite appalled TV channels interviewed children afterwards. Indeed. What were the adults doing, too, allowing that to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I've been discussing this with a few American colleagues. Three of the four insist that the only way to prevent things like this occurring is for even more citizens to start carrying guns. Absolutely insane. This is the reason why I am very pessimistic about the chances of gun control legislation passing in America anytime soon. While it is undoubtedly becoming more progressive on issues such as LGBT rights, most centrists and even liberals in the country seem to continue opposing gun control on principle. Unlike the legalisation of gay marriage, it is politically unpopular and could potentially hurt the electoral chances of Democrats should they start lobbying for it. Edit: Okay, maybe it's a little more complicated than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted December 15, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted December 15, 2012 This is the reason why I am very pessimistic about the chances of gun control legislation passing in America anytime soon. While it is undoubtedly becoming more progressive on issues such as LGBT rights, most centrists and even liberals in the country seem to continue opposing gun control on principle. Unlike the legalisation of gay marriage, it is politically unpopular and could potentially hurt the electoral chances of Democrats should they start lobbying for it. Edit: Okay, maybe it's a little more complicated than that Some of the comments below that link: I hate this idiotic nonsense. 27 **** people died. That is a **** blip. Because 27 people die on one day suddenly it is a big problem? The amount of immaturity involved here is astounding. You know how many **** people die in one **** day? Making guns one-shot weapons makes it almost impossible to use them for self defense as missing once means you are **** doomed. I don't have the privilege of owning guns. I have the right to. Big difference. Don't loose sight of the big picture. Guns are our life blood against more government control. This one law (pressed for by the gun control lobby) essentially creates killing zones for criminals and psychopaths. Is it any wonder that those same people take advantage of this fact? Israel learned decades ago to require school administrators and teachers with carry permits to have their firearm with them at all times on school grounds. We won't see the end of this type of attack until we do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 yeah im sure id seen ross kemp on gangs talking to cops in new orleans where the gun crime is shocking and a guy who was high up in the police claimed that more people should have guns because not only does it prevent terrorism it helps prevent the government from controlling the people... its almost as bad as celebrities on twitter claiming that stuff like this happens because people dont pray enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted December 15, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted December 15, 2012 Speaking as someone who has never and in all probability never will own a firearm (I have fired the odd rifle of a friend while hunting), I have no interest in living in a society which would in any way limit my ability to purchase, possess or use a gun. It's a question of principle: if the government retains access to firearms (has an armed forces or police), then one of the prerequisites for citizenship, as opposed to being a subject, is access to military-grade firearms. Power comes from the barrel of a gun; if it is to be the people who have the power, then they must be able to acquire and use any weapon the government can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDon Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 if it is to be the people who have the power, then they must be able to acquire and use any weapon the government can. That's already not the case though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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