Rainer Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 Looks like the title is heading to Barca then.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milfner Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 Indeed it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 Barcelona win 4-0 and win the league. Messi equals the legendary Ronaldo season with 47 goals. Malaga draw 1-1 with Real Madrid. Santander win 2-0 vs Sporting Gijon. Xerez, Vallodolid and Tenerife are relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 And there concludes the least competitive la liga in recent seasons (save for Atletico v Sevilla cup final on wednesday night). Imagine not winning a league yet finishing on 96 points?! Mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 16, 2010 Moderator Share Posted May 16, 2010 €60 lost. Thanks Réal you useless bastards. Glad you won nothing this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 Imagine not winning a league yet finishing on 96 points?! Mental. There is a bigger gap between Real Madrid (2nd) and Seville in the final Champions League spot (4th) than there is between Seville (4th) and Xerez who finished bottom. 33 points compared to 29 points. :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Imagine not winning a league yet finishing on 96 points?! Mental. There is a bigger gap between Real Madrid (2nd) and Seville in the final Champions League spot (4th) than there is between Seville (4th) and Xerez who finished bottom. 33 points compared to 29 points. :? La Liga is the Scottish league with sunshine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norton65ca Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 ahh, that's an interesting comparison, one wonders what the results of a mini tournament between the third to seventh placed teams, for example, in each league would look like: Valencia Dundee United Sevilla FC Hibernian Mallorca Motherwell Getafe Heart of Midlothian hmmmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 18, 2010 Moderator Share Posted May 18, 2010 I know LAX wasn't being entirely serious. But while Spain may have a 'top 2', that top 2 happen to be 2 of the greatest club sides on the planet. I'd say they'd probably be the top 2 if they were plonked into the Premier League aswell (they'd arguably be the top 2 no matter what league they were put in). Just because everyone else in the Spanish League is so far behind doesn't mean it's a poor league. It just happens to have 2 world-class power-houses at the top. The league is strong throughout. Atlético just won the Europa League from midtable beating a Premier League midtable side. Bottom of the league could have escaped relegation on the final day (!) had results gone their way and the 2 sides at the top just happened to re-write their record books with the season they just had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Dunno about that BOF. With their current teams they would do well, yes, but they would have never enjoyed the advantages that they have in Spain in any other league. Madrid wouldnt have been funded by local government, Barcelona wouldnt be an unofficial national team, neither would have the TV deals they have and if none of those things had been allowed to happen then they wouldnt have built up the fanbases they have either. It's the same as the Celtic - Rangers to the Premier League thing. They have had 120 years of dominating a league of their own to build up a huge fanbase and now they are bored with that league they want to parachute directly into ours, yet they cant see why the 72 football league clubs think they are taking the piss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanky Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Imagine not winning a league yet finishing on 96 points?! Mental. There is a bigger gap between Real Madrid (2nd) and Seville in the final Champions League spot (4th) than there is between Seville (4th) and Xerez who finished bottom. 33 points compared to 29 points. :? La Liga is the Scottish league with sunshine And (no offence to Scottish sides) they are a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maradona10 Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 I agree with BOF, i had an opportunity to go and see Real Madrid. We have Utd banging on about how big they are but you can understand why Ronaldo wanted to ply his trade there as that club is massive, the whole stadia the people who watch the game, even the fans who queue up just for a glimpse of the Real Madrid Coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 That happens at Old Trafford too mate. The main reason why Ronaldo wanted to go to Madrid is because he is from the Iberian peninsula (well, actually he is from the Portuguese equivalent of the Canary islands if we are being pedantic) but he grew up in a culture dominated by Real Madrid. I imagine the ease of getting back home for visits is a factor too. The equivalent would be a Scottish, Welsh or Irish lad on the books at Madrid wanting to join Manchester United. It doesn't mean Manchester United are bigger, it just means that the kid grew up with United being the bigger influence on his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maradona10 Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 I have been to OT, the numbers are immense at the Bernabau. I was with a United fan who even conceded that RM are huge, if you haven't already been but hopefully Villa get to play them one day, you'll realise just how big this club is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Old Trafford is only 4,000 seats less. Unless you are talking about an intangible element of hugeness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWeedMcGrass Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Real Madrid is the biggest club in Europe , fact , and even if they win **** all , they'll still be able to drag away players from nouveau big clubs like United and their ilk. They can buy ten Ronaldo's off Man Utd in the next ten years and Utd won't be able to do squat to stop it. Such is the brand of Real Madrid in the latin world and football in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 18, 2010 Moderator Share Posted May 18, 2010 Agree with all of that McG except for the strange notion that United are in some way 'nouveau'. They're every bit as proper a team as Réal are in that they won their titles through the years, built the club up properly and didn't buy any of their success with gifts from billionaires. If anything, it is Réal who inherited their success through being Franco's plaything. Chelsea are nouveau, United are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWeedMcGrass Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 By 'nouveau' I did not mean new money , it was more of how English football was perceived , say 15 years ago in comparison with Spain and Italy and more specifically , clubs like Real Madrid , Barcelona , Inter , Juve etc. Back then , the top players never played for United or Arsenal , they headed to the clubs mentioned above. United were never in contention for such players. Its only in the last 10-15 years that United have become a global name and are able to attract the very top players. Real Madrid were always there , the mecca of professional football, the symbol of ultimate career achievement and the status quo remains, albeit to a lesser extent. In that way , United are 'nouveau' , in terms of prestige if not money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 15 years ago we were still suffering from the Heysel ban. for the decade before Heysel, English clubs dominated European football. English clubs won the European club for six consecutive years in the late seventies and early eighties. England has also provided more winning clubs than any other nation and if we are being honest, the most likely nation to provide a new first time winner too. If you want to take the long term view of the game, you cant just cut it off at a point which suits your awareness or age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWeedMcGrass Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 I know about Heysel and consequent ban but that doesn't change the fact that Real Madrid were still a bigger name back then with more fans and much more of a presence in one of the most influential geo-political regions of football, the latin world. Liverpool are probably the only english club who have a legacy comparable to the biggest names. English clubs might have won the EC six times consecutively but the best players still preferred playing in the Santiago Bernabeu , San siro or the Camp Nou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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