jimmygreaves Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: well neves is 100% certainty if you dont think that wasnt the plan for day one i dont know what to tell you. They can affectly get a saudi club to buy darwin nunez for example for 100m then sell him to Newcastle or loan him (if they are above FFP) with option to buy following season for a fraction of the price It stinks If the worse case scenario does happen and say a Saudi PIF club bought Bellingham for £200 million then loaned him to Newcastle for next to nothing then something will happen. That is clearly a FFP loophole that will be closed immediately due to outcry from opposition teams and the general public. Loaning players between clubs you own seems a reasonable proposition. There will need to be further regulation to stop clubs taking the piss and I'm confident that regulation will come in and be approved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Leave then with enough rope to hang themselves... I'm sure we'll see deals go through that clearly indicate the Saudi Government are involved directly in the ownership of Newcastle. And then absolutely nothing will be done about it anyway. It's all shit, the PL are useless, and if you can't beat them, join them seems to be the approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 16 minutes ago, jimmygreaves said: If the worse case scenario does happen and say a Saudi PIF club bought Bellingham for £200 million then loaned him to Newcastle for next to nothing then something will happen. That is clearly a FFP loophole that will be closed immediately due to outcry from opposition teams and the general public. Loaning players between clubs you own seems a reasonable proposition. There will need to be further regulation to stop clubs taking the piss and I'm confident that regulation will come in and be approved. I think an amendment is that those other clubs would also have to fall within the Premier league profit and sustainability regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Demitri_C Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Farlz said: **** wolves??? Everton why why ??? And sheff utd?? Clowns of the highest order Edited November 21, 2023 by Demitri_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 So 2 clubs that are Saudi owned, 1 that is Saudi funded in Chelsea, Man C who are state owned and has 10-15 clubs they own, Wolves who is in league with Mendes who does tons of transfers with Saudi. And then Everton who might be in need of some financial help? And then Nottingham, not sure about their reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, sne said: So 2 clubs that are Saudi owned, 1 that is Saudi funded in Chelsea, Man C who are state owned and has 10-15 clubs they own, Wolves who is in league with Mendes who does tons of transfers with Saudi. And then Everton who might be in need of some financial help? And then Nottingham, not sure about their reason. It **** stinks. 3 clubs with saudi interests. Wolves everton forest can go **** themselves. They have effectively killed the game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Other Mat Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, sne said: And then Nottingham, not sure about their reason. Forest's chairman, Marinakis, owns Olympiacos as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Other Mat said: Forest's chairman, Marinakis, owns Olympiacos as well. I'm reaching here but Greece was initially meant to be part of that joint Saudi bid for the 2030 WC before FIFA found a way to just hand it to Saudi outright. Maybe this guy and the Saudis has some dealings and is doing then a favor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Just now, sne said: I'm reaching here but Greece was initially meant to be part of that joint Saudi bid for the 2030 WC before FIFA found a way to just hand it to Saudi outright. Maybe this guy and the Saudis has some dealings and is doing then a favor? I dont think its that just taht twh saudis have paid him off. He would take a big payout he is a crook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Wonder what Everton think they'll gain here - unless their incoming owners own anyone else, then I dont get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: **** wolves??? Obvious why Jorge Mendes FC would vote against it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 I am pleasantly surprised we went against it 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Gotta be honest, I dunno what the big fuss is all about. Yes this highly benefits Newcastle and they'll probably loan in a couple players and dodge around FFP and whatnot but the league has been **** for years and years this is nothing new. Oh no they might loan in Ruben Neves to cover the Tonali ban, can't say I'm particularly worried. The Premier League is in the gutter full stop. We're not squeaky clean obviously, we have our V Sports model but, correct me if I'm wrong, that seems more driven to snapping up young talent? Maybe I'm just naive to the whole thing and the state of it all has just numbed me to these things. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Moving players between clubs who has (or should at least) to follow FFP and clubs who does not is a pretty major loophole. Especially since said clubs have infinite money and can just blow everyone out of the water when it comes to salaries and fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 I don't think they'll be buying players specifically just to loan them back to Newcastle, I'd argue even neves wouldn't happen if it wasn't for tonali and I don't see any others going there It's just a reaffirmation that they absolutely mugged the PL and they will continue to do so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 A nice hint of how the voting will go in a few years when they vote about if the Super League clubs should be allowed to play in both the Saudi Super League and the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: well neves is 100% certainty if you dont think that wasnt the plan for day one i dont know what to tell you. They can affectly get a saudi club to buy darwin nunez for example for 100m then sell him to Newcastle or loan him (if they are above FFP) with option to buy following season for a fraction of the price It stinks If Neves was the plan from day one why did they not sign him and go for Tonali. Wolves had no problem selling to Premier League clubs last summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, Farlz said: Gotta be honest, I dunno what the big fuss is all about. Yes this highly benefits Newcastle and they'll probably loan in a couple players and dodge around FFP and whatnot but the league has been **** for years and years this is nothing new. Oh no they might loan in Ruben Neves to cover the Tonali ban, can't say I'm particularly worried. The Premier League is in the gutter full stop. We're not squeaky clean obviously, we have our V Sports model but, correct me if I'm wrong, that seems more driven to snapping up young talent? Maybe I'm just naive to the whole thing and the state of it all has just numbed me to these things. So we have newcastle in janaury whwn they sign neves and if he scores winner against us will you still feel this way? If we wanted neves you would imagine the saudi club will quote us stupid price them sell to newcastle for fraction of price Its a disaster in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 19 minutes ago, StewieGriffin said: Wonder what Everton think they'll gain here - unless their incoming owners own anyone else, then I dont get it 777 own a host of clubs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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