tomav84 Posted September 28, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 28, 2023 6 hours ago, Mark Albrighton said: Out of interest, are you grouping the two Hibs games? It’s a bad record, no question. I guess I feel as we’ve been typically bad in both the cups and the league, being only bad in the cups is something of an improvement so it doesn’t bother me as much. Plus, I kinda feel like it doesn’t matter how good we are in the cups, we’ll eventually lose to Man City somewhere along the way. but they're out. along with spurs, brighton, and other PL teams. it's a very winnable competition this year and that doesn't happen very often 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted September 28, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, tomav84 said: but they're out. along with spurs, brighton, and other PL teams. it's a very winnable competition this year and that doesn't happen very often I say Man City but I’m only using them metaphorically. Replace with Liverpool or Man Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted September 28, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: I say Man City but I’m only using them metaphorically. Replace with Liverpool or Man Utd. i get that but we finally have a squad and manager where i wouldn't fear them if we took the cups seriously 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted September 28, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, tomav84 said: i get that but we finally have a squad and manager where i wouldn't fear them if we took the cups seriously Problem is I don’t think we’re taking them unseriously. I think he is going for it but he’s trying to balance the league and utilise some players who I think he thinks are sufficiently good enough to do the job and so far it isn’t working. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: Problem is I don’t think we’re taking them unseriously. I think he is going for it but he’s trying to balance the league and utilise some players who I think he thinks are sufficiently good enough to do the job and so far it isn’t working. Agree with this I think with the injuries and new players we are still a work in progress with the first team. There are positive signs but also plenty of areas that need improvement. You make a few changes to that team and the weaknesses just start adding up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted September 28, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: Problem is I don’t think we’re taking them unseriously. I think he is going for it but he’s trying to balance the league and utilise some players who I think he thinks are sufficiently good enough to do the job and so far it isn’t working. i said it in the post match, it really was as if the squad didn't fancy the additional midweek games in the run up to xmas. i'm not totally blaming emery for this one and his HT subs indicated he wanted to win. shame the team didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 We didnt do too badly under deano in the cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted September 28, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, tomav84 said: i said it in the post match, it really was as if the squad didn't fancy the additional midweek games in the run up to xmas. i'm not totally blaming emery for this one and his HT subs indicated he wanted to win. shame the team didn't I think it’s possibly a bit of over confidence from the better players — thinking they just need to turn up and the league form will do the talking, a lack of confidence from the not so good players, there being a certain disconnect between both sets of players from not having played regularly with each other, and just generally underestimating the opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 I am fed up of us putting out half arsed teams, we should be taking this competition seriously, we are not winning the league anytime soon, this is probably our best chance of silverware, but we continue to serve up tripe like that last night! We supposedly have the cup master in Unai... he needs to start taking the cup competitions seriously, just shows that our squad is not as good as we think it is. It is overconfidence from our players? You would think if you are not in the 1st team and get that chance to play you would play out your skin?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 43 minutes ago, calcifer said: I am fed up of us putting out half arsed teams, we should be taking this competition seriously, we are not winning the league anytime soon, this is probably our best chance of silverware, but we continue to serve up tripe like that last night! We supposedly have the cup master in Unai... he needs to start taking the cup competitions seriously, just shows that our squad is not as good as we think it is. It is overconfidence from our players? You would think if you are not in the 1st team and get that chance to play you would play out your skin?? Tbh I’m not so sure. We get to the final then get beaten by a better team than us and then it was all for nothing. I’d rather focus on the two competitions that matter this season - conference and the league. I’d think differently if we weren’t in Europe. What this does mean though is we really need to go full strength in the conference and not half-arse it again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Our last win in the FA Cup was the replay against Wycombe in our relegation season (2016). Bonkers! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Ive also just learned that winning this doesn’t get you into the Europa league anymore. The league cup is an all round waste of time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 7 hours ago, Rightdm00 said: What's the 4th loss? In knockout matches he's lost to stevenege, Man U and Everton. Legia. My bad for using 'knockout' which that wasn't, I was meaning 'cup' as opposed to 'league'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 21 minutes ago, Spoony said: Tbh I’m not so sure. We get to the final then get beaten by a better team than us and then it was all for nothing. I’d rather focus on the two competitions that matter this season - conference and the league. I’d think differently if we weren’t in Europe. What this does mean though is we really need to go full strength in the conference and not half-arse it again. Sadly, Unai has little option but to rotate as the 1st 11 cant play all these game in succession, i have little confidence in our back up players to get the job done in Europe. So do we risk going full strength? Doing so may see us through but the players will get tired and be blowing out their backside come Xmas, league will suffer as a result because of the high line we play its very intense, add the fact out shirts are awful and retain sweat! (need our players to develop asthma and get some magic inhalers….) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted September 28, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 28, 2023 32 minutes ago, Spoony said: Tbh I’m not so sure. We get to the final then get beaten by a better team than us and then it was all for nothing. I’d rather focus on the two competitions that matter this season - conference and the league. I’d think differently if we weren’t in Europe. What this does mean though is we really need to go full strength in the conference and not half-arse it again. based on our last line up and performance i'm really concerned that the conference league isn't much of a priority for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjackle Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Definite issue with depth for rotation- Digne cant play two games a week with the amount hes asked to get up and down. Moreno not fit, so we have Pau there, but hes also needed in the centre where theres injuries... which leads to the crazy option of Mcginn as left back. Im super disappointed about yesterday but see the logic. I just hope we go strong as we can in Europe for the next few games and then hopefully rest/rotate. It would be gutting to not get out the group. Hopefully we wont have such bad luck with inuries throughout the season or its going to be very hard to achieve anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Looking at the next round draw makes it even more annoying. Such a good chance to suddenly have found ourselves in a semi final there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) I'm annoyed af that we whimped out against Everton last night in the Carabao Cup. I really hope this is a wake up call for the squad, because we've now bombed out of one of the competitions that we had a realistic shot at winning. At least it isn't the FA Cup or Conference Cup, but I really hope we start taking those seriously now all things considered. If Legia wasn't a wake up call, then Everton sure af should be. **** even Stevenage last FA Cup should have been a massive wake up call lasting long into this season.... Edited September 28, 2023 by osmark86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 51 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Legia. My bad for using 'knockout' which that wasn't, I was meaning 'cup' as opposed to 'league'. So 2 wins vs Hibs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Mark Albrighton said: I say Man City but I’m only using them metaphorically. Replace with Liverpool or Man Utd. Theres very little between us and man united now. A pretty even head to head record over the last 8 games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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