Mic09 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 3 hours ago, HKP90 said: Small beans, but I'm a bit narked that the new Fifa/EA Sports game still uses our old crest. And the club wonder why the badge release has not been a success... Regardless of whether the new badge is good or not (I personally like it) the half arsed approach has set it up for a PR disaster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 27, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 27, 2023 8 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: As long as it's not completely horrible (and I'm pretty sure it won't be) then I think all we can do is embrace it - I hope it lasts. I bet you these pages will be rammed with people saying how shit it is regardless of what they do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 27, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 27, 2023 Let's turn the lion around and go back to a shield. Let's just pray no one sees it in monochrome from a bit of a distance though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HKP90 Posted September 27, 2023 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, sidcow said: Let's turn the lion around and go back to a shield. Let's just pray no one sees it in monochrome from a bit of a distance though. I think they went too far with the embellishment of the lion here. Looks like a Sheepdog being electrocuted. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Much like new kit season, it's usually the fan efforts that you see on social media - or here - that look the best The club should save a few quid, open a competition for fans to send in their mock ups and take it from there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 If it is the stand alone lion can we at least have the name Aston Villa under it. Is that too much to ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted September 27, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 minute ago, TheMelvillan said: Much like new kit season, it's usually the fan efforts that you see on social media - or here - that look the best The club should save a few quid, open a competition for fans to send in their mock ups and take it from there Some fan made ones looks good, but especially on the kits, they don’t have any actual knowledge of how to make a shirt, the limitations of colours, fabrics, costs, timescales, affixing badges, etc… so it’s like drawing a cool sports car in your maths book as a kid and saying ‘why can’t Ford make that car, it looks better than a fiesta’ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, Captain_Townsend said: If it is the stand alone lion can we at least have the name Aston Villa under it. Is that too much to ask? Aston Villa or AVFC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, TheMelvillan said: Much like new kit season, it's usually the fan efforts that you see on social media - or here - that look the best The club should save a few quid, open a competition for fans to send in their mock ups and take it from there We see a plethora of fan mock up Villa shirts each season and some of them are absolutely amazing. You're right, we have some very talented folk on this forum who I dare say would give Fanatics a run for their money in designing a decent Villa kit. Our very own @NurembergVillan, @Teale's 'tache and all the other designers that we have amongst us on VT, I'm fairly confident would deliver a better result without a doubt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 2 hours ago, a-k said: Not sure where to put this...some uproar in the Canadian Parliament about an honoree who turned out to have fought for a Nazi party...reading up on it, the Division's crest looks eerily familiar... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Galician) The same could be said about thousands of other crests from around the world. We weren't the first to have a lion on the crest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 27, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 27, 2023 9 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: The stripped down lion and year thing - the one we see on the blazers, that worries me. I think it's beautiful. But it's very much a right-now kind of beauty, it's on-trend, it works and it's a very sellable design. It'll be outdated in two years and need replacing. That's what I'd like to avoid, the constant state of change around the badge/crest. Sure is pretty though. Maybe it's just something I need to get used to, that the future of club crests is similar to that of club kits - the colours stay the same but we get a new one every year. I dunno, it just feels to me that it shouldn't be something so disposable. I agree with this. I like it, it looks nice and clean. But it's not a badge/crest As part of the brand identity it's perfect. And have it on an away or a third kit like other clubs do, no issue with that. But I'm reluctant to accept it as our "permanent" crest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterSw Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 A mix of the lion that is on the blazer and the Scotland centenary badge would be perfect for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AvfcRigo82 Posted September 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 minute ago, avfc1982am said: The same could be said about thousands of other crests from around the world. We weren't the first to have a lion on the crest. Correct. And if you do a bit of history on us, William McGregor, who was originally a Scottish draper before coming to Birmingham, adopted most of our identity from Scotland. Our rampant lion and the Rangers lion are very similar, as too was our motto 'Prepared' with Rangers being 'Ready'. (Rangers were founded in 1872). William McGregors wife, Jessie, was a Hearts fan and he himself a Rangers fan - our colours come from these two teams, the Claret of Hearts and the Blue of Rangers. Also, fwiw, Our stadiums similarity come from both being designed by the same scottish architect, Archibald Leitch. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 19 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Correct. And if you do a bit of history on us, William McGregor, who was originally a Scottish draper before coming to Birmingham, adopted most of our identity from Scotland. Our rampant lion and the Rangers lion are very similar, as too was our motto 'Prepared' with Rangers being 'Ready'. (Rangers were founded in 1872). William McGregors wife, Jessie, was a Hearts fan and he himself a Rangers fan - our colours come from these two teams, the Claret of Hearts and the Blue of Rangers. Also, fwiw, Our stadiums similarity come from both being designed by the same scottish architect, Archibald Leitch. This is interesting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 27, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 27, 2023 Considering the club have specifically said it'll coincide with the 150 year anniversary, I imagine the crest will be very old school. Hopefully in a good way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 27, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 27, 2023 13 hours ago, nepal_villan said: Seattle Sounders of MLS just announced a rebrand. Think they did a good job (follow link to see the different applications of the logo). Just plonk The Rotunda on there, change the date by 100 years and colours to claret and blue and we're done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 13 hours ago, nepal_villan said: Seattle Sounders of MLS just announced a rebrand. Think they did a good job (follow link to see the different applications of the logo). Which end goes in?.......Oh it's a tower! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 11 hours ago, sidcow said: I keep seeing this and frankly it's laughable. Our "animal" is a lion. So is theirs. Other than dropping the lion I don't see what we can do. The badges are both round. We've had a round badge for long stretches of our history. But the badges are just not going to get confused. The lion is massively different in style. Our Lion is curvy and muscular. Chelsea Lion looks bedraggled and starving like it's been lame and having to live off scavaging. They're different colours They're facing different ways Chelsea lion has stolen a crossing ladies lollipop Their badge has footballs and flowers on it Our badge has a date Our badge has a star Chelsea lion has a tongue Our lion has the head facing forwards Chelsea lion has its head turned. Frankly if you get the badges confused you must be brain damaged or something. As much as this thread just goes round and round with the same posters making the same points over and over again, thank you for this. The Chelsea comparisons really irritate me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david-avfc Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 10 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: The stripped down lion and year thing - the one we see on the blazers, that worries me. I think it's beautiful. But it's very much a right-now kind of beauty, it's on-trend, it works and it's a very sellable design. It'll be outdated in two years and need replacing. That's what I'd like to avoid, the constant state of change around the badge/crest. Sure is pretty though. Maybe it's just something I need to get used to, that the future of club crests is similar to that of club kits - the colours stay the same but we get a new one every year. I dunno, it just feels to me that it shouldn't be something so disposable. We could easily do what Liverpool have done, which is have a simplified modern crest for the kit and merchandise, but also retain the historical style crest with the two designed to go hand in hand together. The problem for us is because we keep changing the badge over the years we don’t really have a “historical” badge to use alongside a simplified version. The Lerner badge is universally disliked, and the new round badge is disliked by the management team probably for not being distinctive enough to have any value 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 (edited) I see our historical badge as the one on the 1957 FA Cup final shirt. Edited September 27, 2023 by Captain_Townsend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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