nick76 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, est1874 said: Tells me we definitely need another striking option to Ollie, Cam, and Duran. If Watkins goes off the boil this season we're in a spot of bother up top. Yep, I don’t see how people think we have enough up top 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, The_Rev said: Doesnt Diaby cover that role? I’ve not seen much of him in Germany but it seemed he played as much through the middle as he did on the wings. The squad building this summer has all been about flexibility and I’m into that. Sure, but so did Shaun Maloney. Didn't make it right for MON not to bring in a proper goalscoring striker. Flexibility and rotation is great, but it's no replacement for having specialist quality in every position IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 1 minute ago, The_Rev said: Doesnt Diaby cover that role? I’ve not seen much of him in Germany but it seemed he played as much through the middle as he did on the wings. The squad building this summer has all been about flexibility and I’m into that. He's also 5'7 so there will be games where that will be an issue and games where his pace and trickery will be a massive threat. But that means that he's not a long-term cover option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, danceoftheshamen said: They both need to step up to the plate in my view. Shocking performance from Watkins today. It's funny how we always drop in performance whenever Watkins is out of the team. Fans just don't realize how important he is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted July 30, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Pinebro said: It's funny how we always drop in performance whenever Watkins is out of the team. Fans just don't realize how important he is. It’s also possible to value Watkins realistically, and also sometimes be frustrated by him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Villatillidie95 said: Pochettino seems to rate chukwumeka from what he is saying, a player that can play 10 or 8 Have to say I thought he is playing well, been quite impressive. Wish he stayed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Pinebro said: It's funny how we always drop in performance whenever Watkins is out of the team. Fans just don't realize how important he is. Yep hence why many of us think we need another option because the difference is so great and it shouldn’t be….if Watkins comes out of the team the player coming on shouldn’t be such a drop off…plus… 4 minutes ago, Marka Ragnos said: It’s also possible to value Watkins realistically, and also sometimes be frustrated by him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Marka Ragnos said: It’s also possible to value Watkins realistically, and also sometimes be frustrated by him. I was more frustrated by Archer not being able to do the basics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 I think we still need a forward. If we ended up with Doku, AND F Torres on a loan to buy, we would be nearly complete, it would be the best window in my memory. Jury’s out on Bailey, it’s his first game back and we were failing before he came on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Just now, nick76 said: Yep hence why many of us think we need another option because the difference is so great and it shouldn’t be….if Watkins comes out of the team the player coming on shouldn’t be such a drop off…plus… How do you find a striker at the same level as Watkins and convince him to join while not being guaranteed a starting spot? It's incredibly difficult. A top level striker isn't going to come here and compete for a spot if he can be the main man for a club at a similar level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 I love Ollie, but he isn't the striker we need to take us to the next level. He's too nice. We we'd a ruthless selfish bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted July 30, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pinebro said: How do you find a striker at the same level as Watkins and convince him to join while not being guaranteed a starting spot? It's incredibly difficult. A top level striker isn't going to come here and compete for a spot if he can be the main man for a club at a similar level. I agree. Consider that Manchester United just spent 70 million on a forward who is young and good, but is absolutely not guaranteed to be any better or even as good as Ollie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Just now, Pinebro said: How do you find a striker at the same level as Watkins and convince him to join while not being guaranteed a starting spot? It's incredibly difficult. A top level striker isn't going to come here and compete for a spot if he can be the main man for a club at a similar level. We did it for Tielemans in midfield, we did it for Torres for CB despite the high quality options in those areas…that’s the task for Emery and especially Monchi and they’ve already done it twice this season to convince those two players to come into a packed quality areas of our squad so no reason why they can’t do it for the striker area as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Can I just remind you guys that these are pre season warm up games, where working towards full fitness is the key. Also how many times this season will we play in 80 degrees Fahrenheit conditions in the coming season. Most of us would drop dead after 5 minutes at that pace and in those conditions tonight and yet here we are, sat in our comfy seats at home making ultra critical comments. I used to enjoy the time when supporting Villa was our sole focus, now it seems that many of us have turned into social media critics. There were some very exciting passages of Villa play tonight, and if we can replicate this in a Premier League environment we will have a major impact. Stop fixating on our perceived deficiencies, and let Emery get on with his job of building a top quality unit ..... at which he is world quality. A number of you will continue on moaning but I'm going to do the opposite. My sons are looking into getting four Terrace View season tickets (if there are any still available). I paid for five season tickets for my sons and I for many years during the nineties and the noughties, until ill health stopped me going, after countless years of massive enjoyment. I might get back to see at least one or two games if the Terrace tickets are possible. What a time to be a Villa fan! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Just now, Marka Ragnos said: I agree. Consider that Manchester United just spent 70 million on a forward who is young and good, but is absolutely not guaranteed to be any better or even as good as Ollie. Yeah but Man U always over pay. We’ve proven in other areas we can get good deals and some other club do the same. We can’t as fans keep bleating about Brighton and Brentford picking up these great deals and then compare our Striker search with with Man U overpaying. Monchi and co have been brought in to solve issues like this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, nick76 said: We did it for Tielemans in midfield, we did it for Torres for CB despite the high quality options in those areas…that’s the task for Emery and especially Monchi and they’ve already done it twice this season to convince those two players to come into a packed quality areas of our squad so no reason why they can’t do it for the striker area as well. Little different as there are more spots available in midfield and Torres seem to be deployed at fullback by current evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 I think we were absolutely excellent in the second part of the first half, but essentially the best team throughout. As the 'analysts' said at the end, Villa were the most interesting team of this tournament, the one that impressed the most. Lots to like about us and great to see the players mixing it up in relatively equal fashion. When our first team play in cooler climes we are finally going to properly shit on some teams. Excited for the new season. A couple more quality additions would make for a sexy summer, but even without them, we look juicy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted July 30, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2023 1 minute ago, nick76 said: Yeah but Man U always over pay. We’ve proven in other areas we can get good deals and some other club do the same. We can’t as fans keep bleating about Brighton and Brentford picking up these great deals and then compare our Striker search with with Man U overpaying. Monchi and co have been brought in to solve issues like this. All I can for sure is I’m glad I’m not not making these deals. It’s basically brain surgery-level delicate at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Pinebro said: Little different as there are more spots available in midfield and Torres seem to be deployed at fullback by current evidence I don’t think it’s different really because more spots but there is a lot more quality competition numbers as well. Anyway let’s just see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2023 Some fans are insufferable ( Some on here but moreso on other Villa Media ) You'd think we'd just been dumped out of an FA Cup semifinal or something ffs. Little perspective from multiple aspects. It's pre season, experimental sides, players joining at different times, some sharper than others etc. It's all about learning, fitness and tweaking. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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