TheFish Posted August 7, 2023 Visiting Supporter Share Posted August 7, 2023 Supercomputers are used for decoding DNA, or nuclear fusion research. They're not used for predicting football tables. They're just doing recent form, aren't they? I know Newcastle don't have the depth to compete, so I'd be surprised if we finished in the top 4 again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted August 7, 2023 Author Share Posted August 7, 2023 I've just seen that I started this topic! I have no recollection of this. Was big ballin' in Belgrade at the time and had just watched the game on my phone, in a bar, on a street the locals call "Silicon Valley", due to the amount of silicon implants in the female population. Based on the above, it's going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted August 7, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7, 2023 8 hours ago, duke313 said: Why am I seeing loads of PL predictions with us in top 4? I saw one that had us finish 3rd We're being set up for failure. I honestly don't think so. People get genuinely excited. I don't think it's fake or cynical, in most cases. I totally understand why some people feel the need to manage expectations and not get carried away etc., sometimes as a defense against disappointment, but there are naturally some people -- and I'm one -- who can imagine it happening with great clarity and real emotional force, and I know for myself, that's it's just minor shortcoming that I've just grown used to in myself and don't try to fight it and at the same time don't take it too seriously, either. One thing I can say with certainty: The outcome will be what the outcome will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sparrow1988 Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 17 hours ago, Don_Simon said: I've just seen that I started this topic! I have no recollection of this. Was big ballin' in Belgrade at the time and had just watched the game on my phone, in a bar, on a street the locals call "Silicon Valley", due to the amount of silicon implants in the female population. Based on the above, it's going to happen. Sounds like a terrible place. Just out of interest what’s it called? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted August 8, 2023 Author Share Posted August 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, sparrow1988 said: Sounds like a terrible place. Just out of interest what’s it called? https://mirandalovestravelling.com/silicone-valley-in-belgrade/ An AVFC trip to play Partizan Belgrade, Champions League 24/25, bring it on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 minute ago, bobzy said: We're pretty fancied by a lot of people. The Guardian Football Weekly boys have us: Troy Townsend - 4th Lars Sivertsen - 8th Barry Glendenning - 7th ("They'll be better than last season, but in the same spot") Max Rushden - 6th I can't remember this sort of across the board praise before. We're destined to finish 14th I'd take any of those (not 14th) as long as we're progressing to the latter stages of all the cups we're in. Ideally a final and winning one of them. Does winning the FA Cup get you Europa League? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MrBlack said: I'd take any of those (not 14th) as long as we're progressing to the latter stages of all the cups we're in. Ideally a final and winning one of them. Does winning the FA Cup get you Europa League? Yes - both FA cup win and League cup win gets directly into Europa League. If 5th place in the league ends up as a Champions League spot, then England lose the 5th place Europa League entry. This EL spot doesn't go further down the league so no extra spaces in Europe. Edited August 9, 2023 by ender4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, MrBlack said: I'd take any of those (not 14th) as long as we're progressing to the latter stages of all the cups we're in. Ideally a final and winning one of them. Does winning the FA Cup get you Europa League? I'd take any of those irrespective to be honest If anyone wants to listen, by the way, here: https://www.theguardian.com/football/audio/2023/aug/09/premier-league-season-preview-arsenal-to-fulham-football-weekly-podcast - from 12:14 onwards for the Villa bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, ender4 said: Yes - both FA cup win and League cup win gets directly into Europa League. If 5th place in the league ends up as a Champions League spot, then England lose the 5th place Europa League entry. This EL spot doesn't go further down the league so no extra spaces in Europe. IIRC they downgraded the league cup to a Europa Conference League place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, villan95 said: IIRC they downgraded the league cup to a Europa Conference League place So it was 8 places - 4 CL, 3 EL, 1 ECL: Top 4 - Champions League 5th place - Europa League 6th place - Conference League FA Cup - Europa League League Cup - Europa League and now it is 8 places - 4 CL, 2 EL, 2 ECL: Top 4 - Champions League 5th place - Europa League 6th place - Conference League FA Cup - Europa League League Cup - Conference League and if the teams in Europe do well, then it becomes 8 places - 5 CL, 2 EL, 1 ECL: Top 5 - Champions League 6th place - Europa League FA Cup - Europa League League Cup - Conference League (with all the usual proviso if a top team also wins a cup) Edited August 9, 2023 by ender4 EDIT - Change of competition entry as per discussion below 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, ender4 said: So it was 8 places - 4 CL, 3 EL, 1 ECL: Top 4 - Champions League 5th place - Europa League 6th place - Conference League FA Cup - Europa League League Cup - Europa League and now it is 8 places - 4 CL, 2EL, 2 ECL: Top 4 - Champions League 5th place - Europa League 6th place - Conference League FA Cup - Europa League League Cup - Conference League and if the teams in Europe do well, then it becomes 8 places - 5 CL, 1 EL, 2 ECL: Top 5 - Champions League 6th place - Conference League FA Cup - Europa League League Cup - Conference League (with all the usual proviso if a top team also wins a cup) If 5th gets a CL spot, wouldn't 6th be Europa League spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, duke313 said: If 5th gets a CL spot, wouldn't 6th be Europa League spot? EDIT - changed based on info below. Edited August 9, 2023 by ender4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 minute ago, ender4 said: It doesn't sound like it - Its the sole EL spot that qualifies through the league that gets promoted to a CL spot. So it seems we end up with no EL spot qualifying through the league (depending on who wins the cups). The Premier League website says otherwise: "Qualification for the two other UEFA competitions, the Europa League and Europa Conference League, will follow the same protocols as in previous years, albeit if the fifth spot qualifies for the Champions League, the Europa League spot will go to the team finishing sixth." What’s new in 2023/24: Extra Champions League place (premierleague.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 On 07/08/2023 at 19:31, Don_Simon said: I've just seen that I started this topic! I have no recollection of this. Was big ballin' in Belgrade at the time and had just watched the game on my phone, in a bar, on a street the locals call "Silicon Valley", due to the amount of silicon implants in the female population. Based on the above, it's going to happen. Soooo… where’s this street? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, duke313 said: The Premier League website says otherwise: "Qualification for the two other UEFA competitions, the Europa League and Europa Conference League, will follow the same protocols as in previous years, albeit if the fifth spot qualifies for the Champions League, the Europa League spot will go to the team finishing sixth." What’s new in 2023/24: Extra Champions League place (premierleague.com) ohhhh ok. Yes, in that case: If the teams in Europe do well, then it becomes 8 places - 5 CL, 2 EL, 1 ECL: Top 5 - Champions League 6th place - Europa League FA Cup - Europa League League Cup - Conference League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 22 minutes ago, ender4 said: ohhhh ok. Yes, in that case: If the teams in Europe do well, then it becomes 8 places - 5 CL, 2 EL, 1 ECL: Top 5 - Champions League 6th place - Europa League FA Cup - Europa League League Cup - Conference League Or more likely (given the top 4 will probably win the FA and League cups): Top 5 - Champions League 6th place - Europa League 7th place - Europa League 8th place - ECL If West Ham had won the ECL and also finished 5th this year....would there have been an extra place for the Europa League for England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted August 9, 2023 Author Share Posted August 9, 2023 54 minutes ago, Tommo_b said: Soooo… where’s this street? Priorities. You love to see it. https://mirandalovestravelling.com/silicone-valley-in-belgrade/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: Priorities. You love to see it. https://mirandalovestravelling.com/silicone-valley-in-belgrade/ It was a need to know basis and I needed to know 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Waiting on the 2023/2024 relegation thread this time next week. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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