RichW Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 hour ago, LondonLax said: Oh absolutely. Making the Champions League is not going to change our world the way some people seem to think. I agree. Champions League is going to be great for us fans, club finances and obviously the exposure the club is going to get but I don't see it as a sliding doors moment where we are going to do what Spurs have done for instance over the last 15 years. Players who want to play Champions League will not sign for Villa on that basis because there is no guarantee we will be up there each year, players will join Villa because they see the club as an exciting project that's on the up. I think Newcastle would have signed the players they did last summer regardless of Champions League or not personally. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted April 4 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted April 4 The Champions league will be a big boost commercially for us, especially after a (hopefully) successful Conference league season. The profile of the club goes up, the sponsors we can attract become better, we can find more partnerships and use that income to continue to develop in our role of the great disruptor. I realise that none of us grew up dreaming of the day our club signed an official bed linen partner, but this is a commercial game - commercial income overtook TV income this season for the first time and back to back European campaigns, especially if one is in the Champions league changes the way we're thought of as a commercial entity. The TV income will be welcome, an additional £30m - the commercial value could be as much as the same again, and over a number of years. It matters. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders129 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 13 minutes ago, Jareth said: Are yo crazy? It will make a massive difference to the calibre of player we will bring in this summer which will be pivotal to us climbing higher next season. Unai has worked miracles with the current squad but we are a couple of engines down and running on fumes as we approach the runway. Massive upgrade ahead if we make it. I’m not so sure…what’s it done for Newcastle? Tonali? We’re not going to suddenly go out and buy Rodri, KDB etc because we sneak into the UCL for one year. Also FFP restrictions mean this is impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 4 Moderator Share Posted April 4 14 minutes ago, rodders129 said: I’m not so sure…what’s it done for Newcastle? Tonali? We’re not going to suddenly go out and buy Rodri, KDB etc because we sneak into the UCL for one year. Also FFP restrictions mean this is impossible You're absolutely right on the first part - the second part I think is the important one, if we keep raising the profile of the club by qualifying for European competitions (even if not the CL) we'll keep raising our incomes and those restrictions will keep getting less and less restrictive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 32 minutes ago, Jareth said: Are yo crazy? It will make a massive difference to the calibre of player we will bring in this summer which will be pivotal to us climbing higher next season. Unai has worked miracles with the current squad but we are a couple of engines down and running on fumes as we approach the runway. Massive upgrade ahead if we make it. I think you might be disappointed. We will not be spending at a level that assumes we are now have Champions League revenue for the foreseeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 8 hours ago, Mantis said: Neither could crumble. We could just both keep bobbing along in the same way we are now. I don’t believe both sides will win all their “expected” to win games and lose to the expected top 3. a side will drop points in a chunk in the last 7-8 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I think the fact we have been out of it so long has resulted in a situation where a lot of us Don't value the CL. The CL is the main event folks. To get there we have to have our beat season since the 90s and to be there we expose ourselves in a way we haven't in a generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 38 minutes ago, LondonLax said: I think you might be disappointed. We will not be spending at a level that assumes we are now have Champions League revenue for the foreseeable. I guarantee I won’t be disappointed. Look at what we’ve achieved with what we’ve got, then imagine a gear above that. Extra income will not be spent on cast offs from Man U but that money, with the lure of UCL will see us get deals over the line with the likes of Nico Williams, who previously were not convinced enough. Im not sure the wider world understands the opportunity that Emery sees, he won’t say it out loud but UCL is his target, his only target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jareth Posted April 4 Popular Post Share Posted April 4 33 minutes ago, Captain_Townsend said: To get there we expose ourselves in a way we haven't in a generation. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 6 minutes ago, Jareth said: I guarantee I won’t be disappointed. Look at what we’ve achieved with what we’ve got, then imagine a gear above that. Extra income will not be spent on cast offs from Man U but that money, with the lure of UCL will see us get deals over the line with the likes of Nico Williams, who previously were not convinced enough. Im not sure the wider world understands the opportunity that Emery sees, he won’t say it out loud but UCL is his target, his only target. It will bring some extra revenue, it might get a new signing over the line or help with sponsorship negotiations. What it won’t do is turn us into the new Tottenham or Arsenal. The same way it hasn’t for Newcastle and didn’t for Leicester. I would predict we are more likely than not to finish outside the Champions League the season after and I expect the club would be planning for that scenario in their spending. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 If our PSR situation is as dicey as it appears we probably won't be signing many players regardless of whether we make Champions League or not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Just now, LondonLax said: It will bring some extra revenue, it might get a new signing over the line or help with sponsorship negotiations. What it won’t do is turn us into the new Tottenham or Arsenal. The same way it hasn’t for Newcastle and didn’t for Leicester. I would predict we are more likely than not to finish outside the Champions League the season after and I expect the club would be planning for that scenario in their spending. We don't want to be Spurs, or Arsenal, and certainly not Newcastle or Leicester. And we won't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_ian_taylor Posted April 4 VT Supporter Share Posted April 4 1 hour ago, Captain_Townsend said: I think the fact we have been out of it so long has resulted in a situation where a lot of us Don't value the CL. The CL is the main event folks. To get there we have to have our beat season since the 90s and to be there we expose ourselves in a way we haven't in a generation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Let's say ManUre over perform and get 2 points a game, they'll finish on 66 points. We need a point a game from our remaining fixtures to finish on that with a superior GD of 17. For them to catch us we'd have to have an absolutely catastrophic end to the seson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Like others I am more nervous/tuned in to the Spurs/Man U games as well as what is happening in the European games. This weekend and the mid-week games feel like a real pivotal point in our season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 In a weird way, it might be a good thing we lost to Man City the way we did. Man City will get a bit of confidence back ahead of their game to Real Madrid (which we need them to win). It also keeps them in the title hunt with them playing Spurs towards the end of the season. We don’t want them treating that as a dead rubber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 minutes ago, omariqy said: In a weird way, it might be a good thing we lost to Man City the way we did. Man City will get a bit of confidence back ahead of their game to Real Madrid (which we need them to win). It also keeps them in the title hunt with them playing Spurs towards the end of the season. We don’t want them treating that as a dead rubber. Reaching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 12 minutes ago, omariqy said: In a weird way, it might be a good thing we lost to Man City the way we did. Man City will get a bit of confidence back ahead of their game to Real Madrid (which we need them to win). It also keeps them in the title hunt with them playing Spurs towards the end of the season. We don’t want them treating that as a dead rubber. I don't think City need any help with confidence or motivation, they are entering steamrolling mode. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digavilla Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Just seen a report of our current wage bill % to revenue. CL is definitely important , as all the teams above us are all charged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 4 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: I don't think City need any help with confidence or motivation, they are entering steamrolling mode. I don’t know. It’s not the same city side and the fans and the players were getting nervous I sense. This was a must win game for them. They have difficult fixtures left and they need to win every single one to stand a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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