Delphinho123 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 15 minutes ago, KentVillan said: Getting really boring reading this kind of take on every single thread. We’re third in the Premier League and apparently most of our squad have a shit attitude, can’t play football etc No they're not. Who's telling you that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Zero7 said: Need a season long loan at a Championship club Agreed, he needs a run of playing full games. every week. He's not going to get that at Villa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyVillans Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Didn't get in the game much but thought the stuff he did was decent. Some nice touches. Really think he has the attributes to be a great player. Have to be patient with him and more importantly he needs to be patient with his own progress. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero7 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 3 hours ago, lexicon said: I disagree - I think being in and around the squad, getting minutes and having the benefit of elite coaches is a lot more valuable for him in his individual situation. Getting minutes here and there will not help him develop quick enough, he needs to learn the English game quicker and at a top to mid table championship striker he will get that regular game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Zero7 said: Getting minutes here and there will not help him develop quick enough, he needs to learn the English game quicker and at a top to mid table championship striker he will get that regular game time. i agree that he needs game time, week in, week out at a good level, whether thats the championship, Germany, or wherever, i dont know. But getting 10 mins here and there for Villa, and the odd dead rubber European or Cup game, wont help him develop as much as 90 mins, week in, week out on loan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Zero7 said: Getting minutes here and there will not help him develop quick enough, he needs to learn the English game quicker and at a top to mid table championship striker he will get that regular game time. But that doesn't prepare him for the PL either and the standard isn't good enough. He's got a lot of senior appearances under his belt already (100+, I believe), albeit not in the English game, and I think he'd be better served staying at the club for the reasons I mentioned (and I think the club think that too). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero7 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 3 hours ago, lexicon said: But that doesn't prepare him for the PL either and the standard isn't good enough. He's got a lot of senior appearances under his belt already (100+, I believe), albeit not in the English game, and I think he'd be better served staying at the club for the reasons I mentioned (and I think the club think that too). It’s certainly a bit of a quandary, he looks like he has massive of potential but until he can start to influence a game I’d rather he was getting more game time elsewhere. It’s good to have different options and I respect yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted December 15, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, KentVillan said: Getting really boring reading this kind of take on every single thread. We’re third in the Premier League and apparently most of our squad have a shit attitude, can’t play football etc A sport of opinions, yes. I actually don't mind @Delphinho123's harsh hot takes. I sometimes don't agree, but I feel they open up an interesting perspective and are oddly evenhanded and funny. I can't say for sure whether or not Durán is a good fit. It's still way too early for any final pronouncements. I like him when he seems to be getting stuck in and battling defenders and lunging forward. Yesterday, he stood around until half-time, not so much ball watching as nothing watching, until Emery obviously told him to get his arse into gear. But tbf, Mostar's low block was disciplined AF and it made things very hard for him. They opened up eventually the Kraken (Durán) was at last released, but by then it felt ineffectual. I feel like a certain kind of fan can get very excited by his very mild antics (not saying that's you at all, @KentVillan), but that stuff seems almost like social media trolling to me -- on-pitch TikTokkery. I want results. Goals and assists. Overall, I'm super glad we have him. We NEED him right now, too. Let's not forget that. He's an option upfront for tired players. All this speculation about whether or not he should be somewhere else is remarkably shortsighted, in my opinion. We'd obviously be squad-thin without him. Edited December 15, 2023 by Marka Ragnos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Did well at left back in the last five when Moreno was blowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Not sure he is currently good enough to help us much but since he's still young he has time on his side. Almost certainly too pricey for us in January but I wouldn't hate if he got loaned out and we brought in a more finished article attacker. Not hating on him but the drop off in quality from Watkins to him is a bit too steep atm. Not sure if it's realistic to expect us to address that situation. I think he would profit more playing more football thou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) I like him. Brings real hustle when holding onto a lead. Edited December 17, 2023 by villan95 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 I liked that shot he got away from absolutely nothing as well. Big potential. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tom13 said: I liked that shot he got away from absolutely nothing as well. Big potential. Reminded me of the Benteke v West Brom one except off target of course 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, villan95 said: Reminded me of the Benteke v West Brom one except off target of course Indeed. One of my fav goals that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Him a Zaniolo brought a lot more physicality into the game when they both came on. I think that was the plan in the end and both did really well hustling for everything. If he keeps his head on his football he'll become a top CF imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 By the age of 22 I think he will be quality. Just needs to keep his head down and wait for his opportunity to come. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) If he stays in the prem for a decade Kevin Davies' Yellow card record will be his for sure Edited December 18, 2023 by MotoMkali 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: By the age of 22 I think he will be quality. Just needs to keep his head down and wait for his opportunity to come. Agreed, he’s got so so much potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBOB Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Has a funny friendship with Zaniolo. Had him around the neck for the Watkins scuffle. If you asked me who would have gotten a red card, i would have either of those two nailed on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 32 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: By the age of 22 I think he will be quality. Just needs to keep his head down and wait for his opportunity to come. That turn and shot he did was brilliant. He's looking sharp. Emery starting to trust him a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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