markavfc40 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) It was inevitable that Ollie was going to miss a league game eventually and I am sure Emery would have contemplated that over the summer when he made the decision not to bring in another centre forward. Emery must have seen enough in Duran to believe if need be he could come in and cover for Ollie. Duran has been here almost a year now. He hasn't started a league game but has shown that he has a lot of ability and also has something about him character wise and seems to have a real desire to want to succeed. I'd imagine he'll be chomping at the bit if he does get to start today and whilst I'll be disappointed if Ollie is out I look forward to seeing what Duran can do. Edited December 3, 2023 by markavfc40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, lexicon said: It's incredibly harsh on Duran to compare him to Gabby - he's got a ton more natural ability and far better technique. Did Gabby ever score a goal like Duran's thunderbastard against Palace? Looks a much more cultured finisher generally as well. Edited December 3, 2023 by Tom13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 58 minutes ago, lexicon said: It's incredibly harsh on Duran to compare him to Gabby - he's got a ton more natural ability and far better technique. Did Gabby ever score a goal like Duran's thunderbastard against Palace? At the same age I think Gabby was a regular in the first team and scoring goals but Gabby was just blistering pace when young Edit. Actually it was a year later he became a regular. Edited December 3, 2023 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted December 3, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 3, 2023 If Ollie is out then Duran has a fantastic chance to push his career on. He has everything he needs to succeed, pace to burn, good technical ability , he just needs a breakthrough game where all these things aline. Hopefully its today, if he can get behind a high press Bournemouth team then he could run riot. It's only a matter of time with him IMHO. UTV . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 On 01/12/2023 at 13:43, vreitti said: Plays just as you would expect of, a 19-year old, overeager and quite arrogant kid. Honestly, don't see much "natural ability", but surely he can develop... in the end it's entirely up to him. Arrogant? No, an unproven rumour from Twatter dont see much natural ability? Its like that Palace goal didnt happen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 36 minutes ago, Zatman said: Arrogant? No, an unproven rumour from Twatter dont see much natural ability? Its like that Palace goal didnt happen Some very good strikes from him so far too to show his technique. He has work to do on his positioning and movement, but he's a kid ffs, of course he's not the complete package yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, lexicon said: Some very good strikes from him so far too to show his technique. He has work to do on his positioning and movement, but he's a kid ffs, of course he's not the complete package yet. Oh yeah he is miles from the finished article but is a potential player there He is also better off here learning from Unai and watching Ollie than on loan in Championship 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, Zatman said: Oh yeah he is miles from the finished article but is a potential player there He is also better off here learning from Unai and watching Ollie than on loan in Championship I think so too - he's played over 100 games at senior level in his career anyway, what he needs is training in our system and the behind-the-scenes work on various aspects of his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 4 hours ago, Zatman said: Oh yeah he is miles from the finished article but is a potential player there He is also better off here learning from Unai and watching Ollie than on loan in Championship His present level, he just isn't good enough for the Premier League. We should've kept Archer and JPB. They where already better players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tommo_b Posted December 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, vreitti said: His present level, he just isn't good enough for the Premier League. We should've kept Archer and JPB. They where already better players. Think Jhons better than Archer. Edited December 3, 2023 by Tommo_b 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Great first touch for his shot that deflected onto the post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, Pongo Waring said: Great first touch for his shot that deflected onto the post. Razor sharp that was 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 He did OK. As yet I wouldn't feel comfortable with him replacing Watkins in the starting lineup if Watkins gets injured. That is my biggest worry about things. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onmeedson Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Like the look of big Jhon and think he's way ahead of his time for a 19year old, just needs time to develop and mature into a Benteke type and an understanding of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 14 hours ago, Tommo_b said: Think Jhons better than Archer. Duran's ceiling is so much higher. Plus he's got the same number of goals as Archer in the PL this season, as it is, despite hardly playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, onmeedson said: Like the look of big Jhon and think he's way ahead of his time for a 19year old, just needs time to develop and mature into a Benteke type and an understanding of the team. How exactly is he 'way ahead of his time"? He's done absolutely nothing yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Has the physical tools but I just wonder if he has the technique to really make it. Time will tell. Given the lack of number 9's around he might well end up being a decent premier league player. Very few young strikers making the grade this days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 18 hours ago, vreitti said: His present level, he just isn't good enough for the Premier League. We should've kept Archer and JPB. They where already better players. No chance is Archer better than Duran. At what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burchy Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Isn’t Durans contract up in 2024? Perhaps that’s what the dummy spitting out was all about a few weeks back, agent talks on a new contract not going well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 23 minutes ago, burchy said: Isn’t Durans contract up in 2024? Perhaps that’s what the dummy spitting out was all about a few weeks back, agent talks on a new contract not going well. No. Why would we sign him on a 1.5 year deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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