andykeenan Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Monday Premier League West Ham v Bournemouth 8pm SS2 Tuesday Champions League Salzburg v Chelsea 5.45pm BT Sport 3 Dortmund v Man City 8pm BT Sport 3 Championship Coventry v Rotherham Burnley v Norwich 8pm Wednesday Champions League Ajax v Liverpool 8pm BT Sport 2 Spurs v Sporting Lisbon 8pm BT Sport 3 Thursday Europa League PSV v Arsenal 5.45pm BT Sport 2 Man Utd v Sheriff 8pm BT Sport 1 Europa Conference League West Ham v Silkeborg 8pm BT Sport 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted October 24, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, andykeenan said: PSV v Arsenal 5.45pm BT Sport 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, fightoffyour said: Monday still isn't miwdeek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 24, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 24, 2022 The handball rule is an absolute nonsense - West Ham's goal allowed to stand because erm.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Just now, OutByEaster? said: The handball rule is an absolute nonsense - West Ham's goal allowed to stand because erm.... Just came to post the same thing, didn’t just hit his hand, he basically deployed a classic volleyball shot to set up the goal. Literally just make it up as they go along and can continue doing so because the only time a poor refereeing decision makes any kind of headlines is when it happens to one of the ‘big 6’ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: The handball rule is an absolute nonsense - West Ham's goal allowed to stand because erm.... It's what they get for trying to make the rules completely objective when stuff like handball will always have a degree of subjectivity to it. The excuse will be it didn't unnaturally enlargen his body therefore not handball despite the clear action to knock the ball up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, MessiWillSignForVilla said: It's what they get for trying to make the rules completely objective when stuff like handball will always have a degree of subjectivity to it. The excuse will be it didn't unnaturally enlargen his body therefore not handball despite the clear action to knock the ball up. Exactly that, his arms are not making his body unnaturally bigger or outside of the silhouette of his body which is the wording from 3 years ago 2 years ago if it was in the build up to a goal it didn't matter This year its unnaturally bigger, distance, speed etc don't matter The problem is right there....theyve changed the rule 3 or 4 times in the last 3 or 4 years and no one has a clue what's going on anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Exactly that, his arms are not making his body unnaturally bigger or outside of the silhouette of his body which is the wording from 3 years ago 2 years ago if it was in the build up to a goal it didn't matter This year its unnaturally bigger, distance, speed etc don't matter The problem is right there....theyve changed the rule 3 or 4 times in the last 3 or 4 years and no one has a clue what's going on anymore But if the ball had hit his midriff it would have gone dead, he volleyed the ball back up in the air with the motion of his arms. I dunno, as had been said, they’ve made it so frickin confusing who knows what is or isn’t handball any longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: But if the ball had hit his midriff it would have gone dead, he volleyed the ball back up in the air with the motion of his arms. I dunno, as had been said, they’ve made it so frickin confusing who knows what is or isn’t handball any longer. What we DO know is that if it hits a Villa player on the arm/hand at ANY time, it's a free kick/penalty. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) I'm fairly happy that stands. We can't have it both ways, the arms are outstretched but deemed natural to fans an the ref gives a pen, like Cash has had happened twice. This guy has his arms by his stomach and fans want handball? It's not deliberate, he's not moved his arm towards the ball and his arms aren't in an unnatural position. If he scored directly from it it's getting ruled out but he didn't. Edited October 24, 2022 by AndyM3000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: But if the ball had hit his midriff it would have gone dead, he volleyed the ball back up in the air with the motion of his arms. I dunno, as had been said, they’ve made it so frickin confusing who knows what is or isn’t handball any longer. That's the current rule or at least my current understanding of it This guy doesn't make his body bigger, no handball Matt cash did, handball You can argue that the west ham player has far more control over what he's doing but PGMOL gonna PGMOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Just make it make sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, OutByEaster? said: The handball rule is an absolute nonsense - West Ham's goal allowed to stand because erm.... They’ve also got a penalty for a questionable handball decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Just shows the rules make no sense. You can volleyball pass it to someone but because you didn’t score it’s ok, but you can’t have the ball smashed at you from a metre away and slide to block it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Bournemouth had a good shout for handball 10 minutes earlier yet that didn't even get to the monitor. And that goal being given was a nonsense. We should be finishing above West Ham this season, they are very passive team these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 That's a volleyball hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 City versus Dortmund is nowhere near as good as it should be. Zzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Draw tonight and the group is more or less done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trillvillan Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Gosh what I would do to see Enzo Fernandez in our midfield. What a player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted October 25, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) Man City have been the worst I think i've seen them play under Pep tonight. Really poor performance. Dortmund should be a couple up. They don't looks so good when KDB isn't playing. Edited October 25, 2022 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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