Peter Griffin Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Does anyone have a good understanding of the Loans rules? A mate told me that a player who is in the last 12 months of their contract cannot be sent out on loan. Is this true? If so, does that mean that we can't loan ElGhazi and either have to pay him off or keep him on our payroll next year unless someone comes in with a bid. This would no doubt encourage encourage derisory offers on the last day of the window which we will probably have to accept to get him off the payroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Peter Griffin said: Does anyone have a good understanding of the Loans rules? A mate told me that a player who is in the last 12 months of their contract cannot be sent out on loan. Is this true? If so, does that mean that we can't loan ElGhazi and either have to pay him off or keep him on our payroll next year unless someone comes in with a bid. This would no doubt encourage encourage derisory offers on the last day of the window which we will probably have to accept to get him off the payroll did we not send Hourihane on loan in his final year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Just now, Sulberto21 said: did we not send Hourihane on loan in his final year? I believe new loan rules came in place on July 1st this year. I am googling it to try and find out but can't find the answer. The person who told be is fairly credible with his knowledge on these things but it sounds barmy to me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post est1874 Posted July 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, paul514 said: The point is keep politics out of sport, whatever your view is it is divisive to your fellow fans. I find it telling when people say to keep "politics" out of things, and proceed to ascribe full political force to any worldview or perspective that they don't like. Two things: 1) Antiracism and Antihomophobia are not political movements or positions. They're about participating constructively in a diverse society and not being a **** dickhead to your fellow human beings. 2) Let's be really generous for a minute and pretend these movements are inherently political in nature. You can't "keep them out of sport", because lo and behold, guess what? Loads of minorities play sport - players of every racial and ethnic background; people who are gay, bisexual, etc. It's perspectives like yours that ensure gay players continue to struggle with their identities and live in the closet rather than being free and open, because they're told their existence is somehow political, and to "keep it out of sport", which is akin to saying "no gays allowed". Shame on you, tbh. 25 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 45 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Great read . We are top 6 everywhere apart from on the pitch.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, MWARLEY2 said: Great read . We are top 6 everywhere apart from on the pitch.. I’d say we’re 7th off the pitch. We really need to become the best of the rest and then have a good crack at breaking the so called top 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I’d say we’re 7th off the pitch. We really need to become the best of the rest and then have a good crack at breaking the so called top 6. It used to be the top 4 and then it went to top 6, maybe we will make it the top 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Peter Griffin said: It used to be the top 4 and then it went to top 6, maybe we will make it the top 7 Isn't that spot reserved for Saudi Arabia? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, est1874 said: I find it telling when people say to keep "politics" out of things, and proceed to ascribe full political force to any worldview or perspective that they don't like. Two things: 1) Antiracism and Antihomophobia are not political movements or positions. They're about participating constructively in a diverse society and not being a **** dickhead to your fellow human beings. 2) Let's be really generous for a minute and pretend these movements are inherently political in nature. You can't "keep them out of sport", because lo and behold, guess what? Loads of minorities play sport - players of every racial and ethnic background; people who are gay, bisexual, etc. It's perspectives like yours that ensure gay players continue to struggle with their identities and live in the closet rather than being free and open, because they're told their existence is somehow political, and to "keep it out of sport", which is akin to saying "no gays allowed". Shame on you, tbh. I’m sorry but I don’t think that’s really fair. The concept of keeping politics and religion out of sport has some merits. If people decide to politicise certain subjects or indeed link them to religious beliefs, then that’s an entirely different matter. I don’t think I’m saying anything controversial, if I say more wars have been started by both subjects than any other reason. So how these things are used for some people’s purposes is reason enough to keep them out of most discussions. Both can be a force for occasionally good but more often bad. That’s people for you. Not wanting to discuss politics or religion within the context of football, I believe to be quite understandable. That doesn’t mean that anyone taking this attitude isn’t engaged in any other worldly issues. It certainly shouldn’t be seen as an excuse for anyone else to deem them to be homophobic or racist. They just don’t want to talk about politics or religion or at least not in a certain context, in this case football. Of course politics and to some extent religion invade most aspects of life, as is clearly demonstrated by the route this conversation has taken. But surely people have as much right not to discuss those subjects as any other without being labelled as complicit in any of the crimes that are frequently committed in the name of either. For many people football is an escape from the everyday problems and drudgery of life. Including people of every race and sexual orientation around the world. I get the argument against putting one’s head in the sand. “Evil prevails when good men do nothing”, I believe was once said by someone much more qualified than me. However the right to keep out of the argument, is surely as valid as is the right to speak out. It’s a personal choice. And no, nobody has the right to chose to be homophobic or racist. Edited July 28, 2022 by DaveAV1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: The concept of keeping politics and religion out of sport has some merits. Sports is a multi billion dollar industry with players in all different sports earning crazy money and it has global media and advertisement leverage. The idea that politics can be kept out of sport is a little naive and utopian in my opinion. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VillaHatesMe Posted July 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2022 You can't keep politics out of sports but can we at least keep it out of the transfer thread. 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 @nick76 We are destined to go for a pint at some stage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rolta Posted July 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2022 Men's football is pure unabashed capitalism, and capitalism at its worst. We have sportswashing to the max: Man City, Newcastle, PSG, Chelsea and whatever else excusing some abhorrant regimes. We have the mega wealthy pulling away and leaving everyone else to pick up the scraps. Football has changed and not really for the better. If people get upset about anti-racism messages, or solidarity with LGBTQ issues and saying nothing about anything else then at least a little bit I think it's a shame that they choose to throw their toys out of the pram about the inclusive messages while ignoring all the other abundant 'political' messages out there that genuinely have huge affects on the competitiveness and enjoyability of the sport. Well, at the end of the day, I guess we just all have to try to enjoy what's left of the football—I mean, of course, whatever's left after the snowflakes have cried about their (real, genuine) issues. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rolta Posted July 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2022 This could go in a few different threads, but we are looking in much better shape than our first game last season: 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rolta said: This could go in a few different threads, but we are looking in much better shape than our first game last season: Very much so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, TomC said: Except that some would argue that politicizing everything is the road to totalitarianism (whether of the right or left). I won't rehash the argument here because it doesn't belong here. Count me among the escapists. Football is two hours a week to get away from the problems that affect the other 166 hours of my week. If a player's decision to join Villa might be affected by his religion, it's in bounds to mention it. If a club's decision whether to sign a player is affected by his politics, that's in bounds too. To express your opinion about a player's religion or politics is a discussion about religion or politics, not football. It doesn't belong here. Some other boards/forums have politics & religion sections for these sorts of discussions. Maybe we need one here so those conversations can be moved. I believe that’s what the “off topic” section is for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomC Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: I believe that’s what the “off topic” section is for. LOL, never noticed that before. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 46 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: @nick76 We are destined to go for a pint at some stage Who said date night was dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: Who said date night was dead about 6 months ago we needed bouncers to keep us apart, we didn't quite see eye to eye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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