Zatman Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Don't mind the Kean rumour, even if I don't rate him that highly. Luiz is putting us in an awkward position and I suspect we're looking at different ways to move him in. Would be quite a clever bit of work to get him off to Juve on a swap. I'd really like Doucoure. I think he's a better player than Sangare myself. Not sure Juventus have room for Luiz. About to sign Pogba to add to Zakaria, Locatelli, Rabiot. McKennie and Arthur plus Ramsey and probably Mandaroga to return from loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaHatesMe Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Tomaszk said: Fabian Ruiz reportedly available for £25m. We won't get a midfielder better than that for that outlay. I do not want him to leave Napoli, but I don't think he fits what the current manager is looking for, and I would love for him to join Villa. But I don't see it happening. My understanding is he'd much prefer to play in Spain if he's leaving Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Zatman said: Brighton signed an 18 year old Paraguay international with 11 goals this season in 15 games Not saying he will be an amazing success though Brighton have a good scouting range but how come we never seem to go for random young players like this. Probably a no risk transfer for a Premier League team We haven't signed anyone leftfield at all under Lange. Traore was the most out there as he wasn't really getting a game at Lyon and we overpaid massively. Ings definitely the most annoying transfer just for the cost and return. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Steero113 Posted June 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Tomaszk said: We haven't signed anyone leftfield at all under Lange. Traore was the most out there as he wasn't really getting a game at Lyon and we overpaid massively. Ings definitely the most annoying transfer just for the cost and return. 13 PL goal contributions from 22 games' worth of minutes qualifies as a poor first season return? Personally think he was criminally underused. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Steero113 said: 13 PL goal contributions from 22 games' worth of minutes qualifies as a poor first season return? For £30m and £125k a week? Yep. Think of all the points he cost us with bad misses as well. He was poor. Hope he starts this season well, he could still end up being a net positive. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, Zatman said: Brighton signed an 18 year old Paraguay international with 11 goals this season in 15 games Not saying he will be an amazing success though Brighton have a good scouting range but how come we never seem to go for random young players like this. Probably a no risk transfer for a Premier League team Because we're shopping in a different market with a ridiculously bigger budget than Brighton... We're signing Champions League quality players, not gambling on unknowns and hoping they'll be Premier League quality... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steero113 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: For £30m and £125k a week? Yep. Think of all the points he cost us with bad misses as well. He was poor. Hope he starts this season well, he could still end up being a net positive. He was £25m. Would you have paid £25m for Emile Smith Rowe that everyone is raving about and made the England squad this season? Because he only registered 12 goal contributions in a team that came 5th. Danny Ings was absolutely fine for his first season. Edited June 9, 2022 by Steero113 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) We have an unusually high amount of highly rated teenagers of our own pushing for a place in the first team squad, so if we sign more teenagers around the eighteen year old range, they have to either come to us accepting they will mostly be playing U23 football, something I'd presume a Paraguay international wouldn't do, or be good enough to come straight into our first team. Sonny Perkins who've been linked to would be more prepared to play for our U23s, same with Irogebunam last saison. Or in other words we already have enough young players of our own that we can use as squad players. Edited June 9, 2022 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 42 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: We haven't signed anyone leftfield at all under Lange. Traore was the most out there as he wasn't really getting a game at Lyon and we overpaid massively. Depends what you're referring to as "leftfield" and what you're attributing to Lange as well. It's been pretty clear that we've been buying either first-team ready players or highly rated youth prospects. An 18 year old Paraguayan international doesn't fit either of these categories (although arguably youth prospect, just older than we've been typically signing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Just now, bobzy said: Depends what you're referring to as "leftfield" and what you're attributing to Lange as well. It's been pretty clear that we've been buying either first-team ready players or highly rated youth prospects. An 18 year old Paraguayan international doesn't fit either of these categories (although arguably youth prospect, just older than we've been typically signing). I’d say a lot of the youth signings are left of field - just because they aren’t from abroad doesn’t mean we don’t have a wide scouting network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 btw I wasnt advocating we sign the Paraguayan kid, my point was we never seem to be in this untapped potential market and would prefer to pay over the odds in 2 years or so if they shine I just get annoyed at clubs picking up steals but we seem to always pay over the odds. The last player we got on a transfer steal was probably McGinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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useless Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Last summer we signed Irogebunam. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Zatman said: btw I wasnt advocating we sign the Paraguayan kid, my point was we never seem to be in this untapped potential market and would prefer to pay over the odds in 2 years or so if they shine I just get annoyed at clubs picking up steals but we seem to always pay over the odds. The last player we got on a transfer steal was probably McGinn McGinn was incredible business, but remember we have just signed Phillipe Coutinho for £17m and I'd even go as far as saying £15m for Douglas Luiz was hilarious value. It's all comparative. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Steero113 said: McGinn was incredible business, but remember we have just signed Phillipe Coutinho for £17m and I'd even go as far as saying £15m for Douglas Luiz was hilarious value. It's all comparative. and Kamara on a free 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 1 minute ago, nick76 said: and Kamara on a free and Chambers on a free 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Sorry @Zatman. These are all good points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: Few links to Sangare over the past couple of months or so. Question… what’s his passing like? He was worth buying for the 6/7 million PSV brought him for 2 years ago ...... like I said at the time. He apparently has a release clause for 30m I'd prefer Bissouma for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, useless said: I think the recruitment team have visions of 90s Brazil when they bring players in. We seem to recruit a lot of promising young attacking players but don't have the same quality in defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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