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21 minutes ago, CVByrne said:

It's part of their contracts, ie their base salary goes up for the season based on Qualification (different levels based on competition). 

i can see changes for a change of division, but not for the season based on a cup contest, i'm not sure it would make sense. i guess you might be right, but i think it's unlikely.

 

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7 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said:

i can see changes for a change of division, but not for the season based on a cup contest, i'm not sure it would make sense. i guess you might be right, but i think it's unlikely.

 

Its not how FM works 😜

There's no pay increase for European games but like you said before they'll get their appearance bonuses plus potential win, clean sheet, goal bonus etc

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12 hours ago, OutByEaster? said:

i can see changes for a change of division, but not for the season based on a cup contest, i'm not sure it would make sense. i guess you might be right, but i think it's unlikely.

It's for multiple reasons basically. But basically players know they can get higher wages if they qualify for Europe. The better the competition the higher they earn. It's also down to the fact they now have to play more football as they need to play midweek now and fly to other countries. Additional matches take a toll on a players career. 

It's also why, for example, Spurs would lose money (or any of the old big 6) if they played in the ECL. The prize money doesn't offset the wage increases due to the players for simply playing the extra games that come with European competition. 

IT also helps teams from an FFP perspective. If teams don't qualify for Europe the players base salaries drop as a result. 

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25 minutes ago, CVByrne said:

 

It's also why, for example, Spurs would lose money (or any of the old big 6) if they played in the ECL. The prize money doesn't offset the wage increases due to the players for simply playing the extra games that come with European competition. 

That can't be right. Spurs would get around an extra £80m by being in the Champions League and getting to say the quarter-finals. There is no chance they are paying their players an extra £80m on top of their usual salary for that season!

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8 hours ago, CVByrne said:

It's for multiple reasons basically. But basically players know they can get higher wages if they qualify for Europe. The better the competition the higher they earn. It's also down to the fact they now have to play more football as they need to play midweek now and fly to other countries. Additional matches take a toll on a players career. 

It's also why, for example, Spurs would lose money (or any of the old big 6) if they played in the ECL. The prize money doesn't offset the wage increases due to the players for simply playing the extra games that come with European competition. 

IT also helps teams from an FFP perspective. If teams don't qualify for Europe the players base salaries drop as a result. 

I'm not sure that's how it works - I'd say the salaries are pretty much set with the bonuses being the thing that changes with success - so a bonus for European qualification, a bonus for a win in a group game, a bonus for winning a trophy, that sort of thing, rather than you getting £15k a week in September then dropping out of Europe and going down to £10k, perhaps appearance fees, but it'd just br unworkable to change the underlying salary with each sporting landmark. Wages are pretty static through contracts, but players have the ability to earn a fair bit on bonuses, and success brings a fair bit of leverage come renewal time.

 

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10 hours ago, ender4 said:

That can't be right. Spurs would get around an extra £80m by being in the Champions League and getting to say the quarter-finals. There is no chance they are paying their players an extra £80m on top of their usual salary for that season!

They mean conference league not champions 

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No problem charging season tickets at a premium when we're in Europe as long is its inclusive - Cup games and euro ' then just charge 2 quid extra pg to none season ticket holders.

With a manager who takes all comps seriously it will go down well while we establish ourselves as contenders for each comp, then revise it again of we win something.

 

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12 hours ago, thabucks said:

Chelsea charge £780 -£1600 per seat per game  behind the dug out … Tanya what we’re competing against 

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/club-chelsea/the-dugout-club

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New for the 23/24 season, this Club Chelsea offering allows fans to sit in luxury padded seats just metres above the players and managers, behind the home and away dugouts.

It's interesting that one as this is something that is in the planning for Villa Park and could be in place for next season (they've spoken about moving some season ticket holders in the middle of the Lower Trinity). It'll be interesting to see what we price it at. Strange to think that it's likely that next season a single match here might cost the same as a season ticket three years ago. I'm sure the club will be delighted with the increased yield.

 

 

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1 hour ago, OutByEaster? said:

Word-that-begins-with-F me.

Villa had a thing a few years back, you get to play a match in VP for ninety minutes, all for charity. I remember thinking it was pricey but probably worth it to actually play on that grass. It was £500.

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I have noticed that a lot of the foreign boys, are very good at promoting the club on social media. There are some who will always post about the KO mentioning the time in both local and international times. This can only help bring in more fans. Not sure if it’s a cultural thing, but very few of the British lads do it.

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50 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said:

I have noticed that a lot of the foreign boys, are very good at promoting the club on social media. There are some who will always post about the KO mentioning the time in both local and international times. This can only help bring in more fans. Not sure if it’s a cultural thing, but very few of the British lads do it.

Yeah Dougie has like a social media sports agency group on insta who promote our games via him

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Call it marketing or perhaps Capitalism, an American idealogy.

Like it or not they are good at that and as a result Villa will go through changes whilst upsetting many a 'fan' along the way.

If they get it right and improve Villa's financial situation many a fan will be left behind and replaced by another fan. Maybe, it will change the moaning rhetoric of many a Villa fan too; that would be good.

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3 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

Here's my thing, and as I'm an expatriate fan I'm always hesitant to comment on these issues as I know what the default retorts will be ( Where is your season ticket etc )

To me it seems, alot of the fans who moan about things like prices, evolution etc. Are the same ones who will be moaning about wanting better service, players, profile, Europe, acknowledgement and respect from media etc.

They moan about the " monopoly " at the top but also fiercely resist attempts and strategy to try and bring us in line and closer to being able to compete.

From the things I see online, haven't our prices been some of the lowest in comparison to all other clubs for a long time?

As a matter of fact, I see that there are " lesser " clubs with higher prices than us.for example.

From a commercialisation standpoint, it must be acknowledged that there are modern and future Villa fans we have to cater to, as well as increasing global appeal.

It's a bit selfish from the older generation and us to want to put a halt on any sort of modernisation and future proofing.

As you say, the Americans are outstanding at Sports Marketing.

Agree 100%.

It is far overdue Villa tweaked their prices accordingly; business strategy is now at the forefront and we all need to understand that.

The philosophy is that this will make Villa more successful in every aspect of the footballing world.

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Another offering

 

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The package will include seats in the Trinity Road Stand or the Doug Ellis Upper and a matchday programme.

 

Existing season ticket holders can purchase the package as a bolt-on while they may also be bought on a match-by-match basis. An opening offer for the Brighton game is as follows...

 

Single match package v Brighton - £120 (including VAT)

Season ticket holder bolt-on v Brighton - £60 (including VAT)

All you can eat street food, drinks, and a ticket for £120...

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