Popular Post Tom13 Posted August 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, villa89 said: That's about his level. I've no idea how anyone scouted him and thought he'd be worth £17m. The odd flash of skill but 99% of the time he's slow one footed and takes too many touches. Dreadful footballer who's also made of paper. The fact that we can barely even give him away tells you everything. Wow, what a load of rubbish. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lexicon Posted August 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, villa89 said: If he's so good then why he is off to Turkey and not getting a £15m transfer somewhere, he's only 26. This should be him in his prime. People on this board completely over rate a lot of our players, Traoré, Sanson, Tréz and the rest, bordering on delusion. 'So good' - you called him dreadful ffs. Do you know the definition of that word? Posting hyperbolic nonsense basically removes all credibility - how would you even begin to describe someone like Brett Holman, Jordan Bowery, Leandro Bacuna, Micah Richards etc. If you think someone who could chip in with a goal or assist every other game is 'dreadful'? 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 11, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 11, 2022 57 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: How the hell am I the top poster in the Bertrand Traore thread! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 I don't mind people criticising Bert, as he does have some faults in his game, but anyone questioning his talent, is plain wrong. If you can't see how talented he is just from watching him, I wouldn't know what to tell you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 3 hours ago, a-k said: 18 year old with a handful of senior appearance vs a 26 year old who has played in Europe 20+ times. Not the same The post was in response to criticism of moving Traore away from the first team. It encourages unwanted players to consider moving on instead of taking a hefty wage and still enjoying first team prestige. In Carney's case it earned us a sizeable fee instead of Carney being involved in the first team squad, leaving on a free and collecting a large sign on bonus, in lieu of Villa receiving a decent fee. I wasn't comparing the players, merely commenting on the 'bomb squad' technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 6 hours ago, lexicon said: how would you even begin to describe someone like Brett Holman, Jordan Bowery, Leandro Bacuna, Micah Richards etc. Woah. Keep the great man’s name out of your mouth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 6 hours ago, Tom13 said: I don't mind people criticising Bert, as he does have some faults in his game, but anyone questioning his talent, is plain wrong. If you can't see how talented he is just from watching him, I wouldn't know what to tell you. Nobody questions his talent. It’s everything else that is the problem. This is coming from his number one fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Nobody questions his talent. It’s everything else that is the problem. This is coming from his number one fan! You should be a more supportive mother. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Nobody questions his talent. It’s everything else that is the problem. This is coming from his number one fan! I think it's disrespectful that people call him injury prone or even lazy as both are bullshit. He is inconsistent like most widemen yet his numbers are good compared to say McNeil Same people probably prefer to have a Shane Long/Darius Vassell type striker to a Berbatov or Giroud 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, Zatman said: I think it's disrespectful that people call him injury prone or even lazy as both are bullshit. He is inconsistent like most widemen yet his numbers are good compared to say McNeil Same people probably prefer to have a Shane Long/Darius Vassell type striker to a Berbatov or Giroud His numbers that strange season were better than the below. Mount, Neto, Eze, Richarlson, Tielemans, Trossard, Jota, Fornals, Trent, Saka. I could go on. Yet he looks like he has forgotten the basics of football most of the time. My conclusion to this is stats aren’t everything and he had a one off very good season in terms of stats. He’s only 26, let’s see how the rest of his career pans out then we’ll talk. If he is as good as you say he is he’s numbers will continue to show it. Especially in Turkey. If they do I’ll be the first to hold my hands up and say I was very wrong about him. Btw It’s ok for people not to rate him. You don’t have to take it personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: His numbers that strange season were better than the below. Mount, Neto, Eze, Richarlson, Tielemans, Trossard, Jota, Fornals, Trent, Saka. I could go on. Yet he looks like he has forgotten the basics of football most of the time. My conclusion to this is stats aren’t everything and he had a one off very good season in terms of stats. He’s only 26, let’s see how the rest of his career pans out then we’ll talk. If he is as good as you say he is he’s numbers will continue to show it. Especially in Turkey. If they do I’ll be the first to hold my hands up and say I was very wrong about him. Btw It’s ok for people not to rate him. You don’t have to take it personally. He has had 3 really good seasons in his career out of maybe 7 full seasons. He has scored double figures twice in his career already 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 If you had a choice of bringing on Traore or the 37 year old version of Ashley Young this season, who would you go for? Exactly. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) Fans talk about how good he is and how disrespectful other fans are towards him yet they want him kept around as a 4th choice on the off chance we need him. Nice way to treat a player. Who’s disrespecting who? Edited August 11, 2022 by Vive_La_Villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Tbf I'd give him plenty of minutes! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Fans talk about how good he and how disrespectful other fans are towards him yet they want him kept around as a 4th choice on the off chance we need him. Nice way to treat a player. Who’s disrespecting who? He probably fears being called a bottler like the Targett bashers aimed at him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 13 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Fans talk about how good he is and how disrespectful other fans are towards him yet they want him kept around as a 4th choice on the off chance we need him. Nice way to treat a player. Who’s disrespecting who? In a game like Bournemouth he would've been a good choice to come from the bench. I think he's very useful especially when we're trying to get back to a game. Now he's gone anyway, so I'll hope him the best wether he has a future with us or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 10/08/2022 at 16:53, avfc1982am said: Bertie, Bertie Bertie.....If he had half the heart and desire levels that he has in skill he'd never have played for us and could've been lighting up the Bernabeu. Alas though, a gust of wind and.... "ouch, me ribs hurt". Hence Turkey. Thanks for the memories and leaving ginger bollox De Bruyne on his arse too. Legend This is very unfair. I'm assuming you're referring to the time he collided with the ad boards and bruised his rib that put him out for a whole game? Certain players just seem to get this stigma about them that they just can't shake it seems. He's a silky foreign flair player so he obviously can't mix it up on a cold wet night in Stoke right. Heart, desire, passion...buzz words that don't really mean anything but seem to be held in high regard at our club. It's why John McGinn is our captain and is seemingly undroppable now. Footballing ability is a bit further down the list of criteria. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakefieldVillan Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Bottom line for me is that he is a good option to come off the bench if we are chasing a game as he has the ability to produce moments of class but he is just too inconsistent to start games and far too powder-puff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 12, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 12, 2022 15 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: If you had a choice of bringing on Traore or the 37 year old version of Ashley Young this season, who would you go for? Exactly. Is this supposed to be a slam dunk decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 15 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: If you had a choice of bringing on Traore or the 37 year old version of Ashley Young this season, who would you go for? Exactly. It depends am I bringing on to replace a right back or right forward? If a right back it'd be Young if it was a forward it would be Buendia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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