useless Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 The next step down from Haaland is elite, Haaland is beyond elite, if Watkins is the next step down from Haaland then it doesn't get much better than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lexicon Posted October 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) Kicked to absolute **** by their shithouse players, feeding off scraps, yet still got an assist and almost the winner. Boggles my mind that people would be looking to shit on him. Edited October 8, 2023 by lexicon 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 21 goals and 8 assists in 38 games since Emery was appointed 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 43 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Don't agree in the slightest, how can you say this as fact? Its not a fact but I think he would He's not an elite striker, hardly anyone is anymore, realistically in the PL "elite" you're talking Haaland, son and salah and 2 of those aren't out and out strikers (I know spurs are playing son there this season) maybe Jesus at Arsenal at a push - so I'd also argue that even with his new deal he's not paid like an elite player either The market is shit, half of the sky 6 need a striker and I've said before I don't think £82m Nunez is better than him, statistically £65m isak at Newcastle doesn't score more than him, spurs moving son up top and Chelsea getting Jackson says they couldn't get a better striker this summer Watkins biggest problem imo is the belief that we can simply go out and get better, I'm not convinced that we can 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Assist today has him the highest scoring player in Fantasy Football this season followed by Haaland, Son and Salah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 45 minutes ago, useless said: The next step down from Haaland is elite, Haaland is beyond elite, if Watkins is the next step down from Haaland then it doesn't get much better than that For me Mbappe is elite ( All round player who is outstanding at almost everything ) Haaland a shade under that. Ollie is probably more in line with the likes of Ivan Toney etc in the tier under that. I love Ollie but he ain't elite imo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: For me Mbappe is elite ( All round player who is outstanding at almost everything ) Haaland a shade under that. Depends what you want in a striker but in a straight out choice I’d choose Haaland over Mbappe by a whisker but both are elite. I agree Mbappe can do everything but nobody is as deadly as Haaland imo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Rightdm00 said: Which top 4 regular CF would you take over him? I can only think of 1 out of the Top 6. Son and Haaland for two. Isak as well undoubtedly. But just because Watkins works well for us (in some games), doesn't mean he'd suit certain systems of other clubs. I couldn't see him doing well for Arsenal at all. When he's at his worst though, he's beyond frustrating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Its not a fact but I think he would He's not an elite striker, hardly anyone is anymore, realistically in the PL "elite" you're talking Haaland, son and salah and 2 of those aren't out and out strikers (I know spurs are playing son there this season) maybe Jesus at Arsenal at a push - so I'd also argue that even with his new deal he's not paid like an elite player either The market is shit, half of the sky 6 need a striker and I've said before I don't think £82m Nunez is better than him, statistically £65m isak at Newcastle doesn't score more than him, spurs moving son up top and Chelsea getting Jackson says they couldn't get a better striker this summer Watkins biggest problem imo is the belief that we can simply go out and get better, I'm not convinced that we can Isak is a better player than Watkins though. That's not in doubt for me. Agree with your post though, apart from him being guaranteed to get in those sides Edited October 8, 2023 by Tom13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Isak is a better player than Watkins though. That's not in doubt for me. Agree with your post though, apart from him being guaranteed to get in those sides In 2017 Isak was turning down Real Madrid and Watkins was playing for Exeter City. So our boy has made up some ground in 6 years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 He's better than Haaland in the world of fantasy football right now. The points tally doesn't lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 25 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Son and Haaland for two. Isak as well undoubtedly. But just because Watkins works well for us (in some games), doesn't mean he'd suit certain systems of other clubs. I couldn't see him doing well for Arsenal at all. When he's at his worst though, he's beyond frustrating. So you named 2 certainly and Isak as a maybe. That's puts Watkins at worst as #4 in the entire PL. I don't see how having the 4th best striker is something to moan about, especially when you consider how much the other 3 in your list cost in wages per week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 41 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Isak is a better player than Watkins though. That's not in doubt for me. Agree with your post though, apart from him being guaranteed to get in those sides I think isak is better too but his wiki page doesn't make for elite striker reading 33 in 105 games in la liga 14 in 28 in the PL Ollie had more goals than him last year (in more games) Then you throw in Wilson as the back up and Newcastle definitely have a much better 1-2 than us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 I wouldn't take Isak over Watkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, villa4europe said: I think isak is better too but his wiki page doesn't make for elite striker reading 33 in 105 games in la liga 14 in 28 in the PL Ollie had more goals than him last year (in more games) Then you throw in Wilson as the back up and Newcastle definitely have a much better 1-2 than us His goals per minute looks decent in La Liga though. I'd be convinced it's betted than Ollie in PL as his goals per minute for us is pretty damn average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Ollie has a goal contribution in every game bar one this season be it scoring, assisting or winning a Penalty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted October 8, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) I wouldn't take any striker in the premier league over Ollie, his work rate , goals and assists are vital to us. He even manages some defensive work. He's a managers dream and he wants to play for us, he believes in the project. UTV Edited October 8, 2023 by tinker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterDad Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 14 minutes ago, lexicon said: I wouldn't take Isak over Watkins. I think there is a rizla paper between - I would be happy if Isak played for us - but no happier than I am that Ollie plays for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Tough game for Watkins playing against Wolves and their six defenders... Still got an assist and maybe on another day two goals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, tinker said: I wouldn't take any striker in the premier league over Ollie, his work rate , goals and assists are vital to us. He even manages some defensive work. He's a managers dream and he wants to play for us, he believes in the project. UTV If you were Unai Emery, and the choice was Haaland or Watkins, you'd choose Watkins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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