a m ole Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, PaulC said: Look how high his foot is. Its dangerous and inflicted serious dmage. Its a red to me! Yeah, he was trying to kick the ball. Doug snuck over his shoulder and headed it away. Are overhead kicks banned now too? Yellow is appropriate. I’d be much more concerned that Dawson got away with a red worthy elbow and Rice didn’t get a yellow for a sly elbow clattering into Coutinho before he finally got what he deserved late into the game. Edited March 13, 2022 by a m ole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 1 minute ago, a m ole said: Yeah, he was trying to kick the ball. Doug snuck over his shoulder and headed it away. Are overhead kicks banned now too? Overhead kicks are definitely illegal if you miss the ball and kick people in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Not sure if it has been mentioned but the injury he got was a result of a crazy pass he made 5 seconds earlier. Fair play to him for trying to rectify the mistake though. He’s not a very good defensive midfielder. It will be interesting to see if the club try and keep him and if so, how they use him next season. Personally, I think he’ll be sold for £25m or something like that and I’m fine with that I guess. Seems a shame to lose him, especially as he’s coming into his prime years now but if he doesn’t want to be here, what can the club do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, VillaParkAvenue said: Overhead kicks are definitely illegal if you miss the ball and kick people in the face. Yes, and it’s a yellow card. Not a red. Which is what happened. Edited March 13, 2022 by a m ole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 (edited) Edited March 13, 2022 by Brumstopdogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MellbergsBeard Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 For me he replaces McGinn in the summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STO Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised to see both Luiz and McGinn replaced in the summer. The latter stays with us but has more time on the bench. As for Luiz, I think he is very over-rated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHY Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 I’ve never been convinced by Luiz, not sure he has the drive to be the best he can be. If a good offer comes in during the summer window I think we will sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Luiz can play in tight spaces, we should be keeping hold of him if he's happy to stay. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Made In Aston said: I think the reason it wasn't given was that lanzini didn't see Luiz, so wasn't intentional. For me that is irrelevant... If you put your boot that high there is potential to hit someone in the face and is dangerous behaviour. Mane got a red vs Ederson for going high for the ball and accidentally taking him out , Nani as well in a Champions League game vs Real Madrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 16 hours ago, Brumstopdogs said: VAR doing its job ignoring stuff like this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zhan_Zhuang Posted March 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2022 Luiz has the best pass percentages of our midfielders... No way should he be dropped or replaced. Just needs a more defensive player to support him and then we'd see the best of Luiz. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) If only he'd been taller, then that kick would have hit him in the chest instead. Edited March 14, 2022 by sne 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 18 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: Not sure if it has been mentioned but the injury he got was a result of a crazy pass he made 5 seconds earlier. Fair play to him for trying to rectify the mistake though. He’s not a very good defensive midfielder. It will be interesting to see if the club try and keep him and if so, how they use him next season. Personally, I think he’ll be sold for £25m or something like that and I’m fine with that I guess. Seems a shame to lose him, especially as he’s coming into his prime years now but if he doesn’t want to be here, what can the club do? He hasn't got "Authority" in his game. I feel a bit sorry for him, because he is not a CDM, he's just deployed there to fill the role....and he doesn't want to be in that role either. 27 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Luiz has the best pass percentages of our midfielders... No way should he be dropped or replaced. Just needs a more defensive player to support him and then we'd see the best of Luiz. I think we have to be careful here.....he makes a lot of non descript short passes, that are semi meaningless.....and are made with no opposition player near him. Stats can be misleading, if not interpreted in an analytical way. As an example....Gabby is one of our all time highest scorers, but due to the amount games he has played, his prolificacy stats are pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 16 hours ago, STO said: I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised to see both Luiz and McGinn replaced in the summer. The latter stays with us but has more time on the bench. As for Luiz, I think he is very over-rated. They are good players, in some ways, but as we aspire to better things, their limitations are exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 28 minutes ago, sne said: If only he'd been taller, then that kick would have hit him in the chest instead. If it was Elphick playing, that kick would have missed him completely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 16 hours ago, WHY said: I’ve never been convinced by Luiz, not sure he has the drive to be the best he can be. If a good offer comes in during the summer window I think we will sell. His game, lacks Command and Influence. We need an upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 19 minutes ago, TRO said: He hasn't got "Authority" in his game. I feel a bit sorry for him, because he is not a CDM, he's just deployed there to fill the role....and he doesn't want to be in that role either. I think we have to be careful here.....he makes a lot of non descript short passes, that are semi meaningless.....and are made with no opposition player near him. Stats can be misleading, if not interpreted in an analytical way. But Luiz is quite obviously our best passer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Tom13 said: But Luiz is quite obviously our best passer. Yes he is....but without the other attributes, necessary to preside in the higher echelons of the league, its not enough. If we have any aspirations of moving away from midtable, and progressing, surely we must see the area's that are not going to be good enough, with certian present personnel. I say it again, and its not picking him out, because he is not on his own, but he makes many non descript passes that have no influence, command, authority, (call it what your will) on the teams advancement. If you rely on stats alone, you may miss the true picture.....its easy to stay back, play the ball around in your own back yard and run the passing stats up. He has questionable influence on a game, talking in very broad terms, depending on the opposition. Edited March 14, 2022 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Not a single player apart from Martinez that can't/shouldn't be improved on if we aim for the top 6-7. Coutinho only being ours on loan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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