OutByEaster? Posted October 29, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 29, 2020 Just came here to post that - it's incredible - how the hell can it be a display of professional political bias to attend a pride march?? I would assume they'll also not be allowed to visit a church? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Can’t be enforceable, if they sacked someone over any of this stuff they would likely be sued successfully and quickly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 4 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said: Can’t be enforceable, if they sacked someone over any of this stuff they would likely be sued successfully and quickly. I don't think it is; it surely falls afoul of the Equality Act (big day for that Act today!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 On that last point: Jolyon, baseball bat in hand and naked under his kimono, striding up the street towards Broadcasting House. You love to see it 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) Sorry to keep adding to this thread, but these guidelines are in complete chaos. Take a look at this useful 3-tweet thread: Four points immediately spring to mind: 1) The sarcasm in that first tweet made me laugh; 2) Saying that trans rights are 'politicised' is itself arguably a form of discrimination (surely, after yesterday, big organisations are thinking more carefully about this stuff?); 3) Trans rights are protected by the Equality Act, so it is surely going to be the case that placing them in a different category to other protected characteristics is unlawful discriminaton; 4) The last tweet shows Davie does not get this at all. It's not at all about the BBC telling its staff what is 'possible within the guidelines', and instead very much about the BBC not unlawfully discriminating aginst its employees. Edited October 30, 2020 by HanoiVillan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted October 30, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 30, 2020 I could tell Tim Davie was a weapon from the moment he tried to shut down BBC 6Music. Nothing since has remotely led me to change that view. Bean counting careerist with no understanding of culture(s) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted October 30, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 30, 2020 Activist Lawyers are on the case already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: 2) Saying that trans rights are 'politicised' is itself arguably a form of discrimination (surely, after yesterday, big organisations are thinking more carefully about this stuff?); It's the worst kind of "both sides" bullshit which has been dragging the BBC in to the gutter for years, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 30, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Chindie said: Activist Lawyers are on the case already. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 30, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 30, 2020 Sexuality has the same protected status as religion doesn't it? Does this mean that BBC employees shouldn't attend religious services if those services might be seen as politicised? Like say, Remembrance Sunday? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: Sexuality has the same protected status as religion doesn't it? Does this mean that BBC employees shouldn't attend religious services if those services might be seen as politicised? Like say, Remembrance Sunday? Yes to the first one, and presumably yes to the others (or I would at least like to see it argued). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 33 minutes ago, blandy said: I could tell Tim Davie was a weapon from the moment he tried to shut down BBC 6Music. Nothing since has remotely led me to change that view. Bean counting careerist with no understanding of culture(s) Thanks; I hadn't twigged it was the same guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blandy Posted October 31, 2020 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2020 That's the way to do it. Can't fall foul of these new rules that way. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzavfc Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Can't believe BBC cut off half the slides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 (edited) So irritating: The actual story here is 'Radio 1 will not break Ofcom guidelines by playing song with offensive word unbleeped, and will instead play the sanitised version, exactly as they do every single other day, every single year'. That's not quite how they've worded it though, is it? EDIT: LOL (tweet edited for sweary word, original here: https://twitter.com/poguesofficial/status/1329394157354446850) Edited November 19, 2020 by HanoiVillan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 It's mad how hard people fight for their right to hear a derogatory term for a gay man on mainstream radio, but continuously vote for starving children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I wonder if anyone complaining about that would have an issue with, for example, WAP by Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion being played on Radio 1 completely uncensored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I don't think I'd be particularly outraged if it was broadcast, easy for me to say as a straight man I guess, I'd probably feel mildly uncomfortable but accept it as a product of its time. It takes a special kind of word removed to feel passionately about hearing the original unedited version though doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 (edited) I'd honestly never heard of this guy or the Reclaim party. Quote Our modern United Kingdom was born out of the respectful inclusion of so many individual voices. It is steeped in the innate values of families and communities diverse in the truest sense but united in the want and need to call this island home. That sounds wonderful. I would never have read between the lines of them wanting to form a new, better Britain, where we respectfully and inclusively insist on broadcasting homophobic slurs. Can anyone recommend any inclusive songs that stick it to the Muslims? Edited November 19, 2020 by Davkaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, MessiWillSignForVilla said: I wonder if anyone complaining about that would have an issue with, for example, WAP by Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion being played on Radio 1 completely uncensored? Isn’t that a bit of an odd comparison, given it wasn't? A heavily edited version is what was played on Radio 1 (and other stations). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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